Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

The case isn't about open borders. There is no decision on the religious discrimination claim at this point. The court only found that persons within U.S. Territory had Due Process rights. And there was no second-guessing of National Security concerns, just an unwillingnes to believe a plaintiff who refused to provide evidence.So is your Conservative source ignorant or actively dishonest ? Nobody who had actually read the ruling could honestly get so much wrong.

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I am of course very pleased to find out that my own rough judgments of the ruling are confirmed by many of the opinions I'm discovering. Shows I really do think like a conservative.

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Since your sources are all hopelessly wrong that is a pretty damning criticism of conservatism.

This story is about providing legal representation to those accused of illegal entry. Or, more likely, about revenge on a non-profit that dared to oppose the government by entirely legal means.Simply screaming about illegal immigration - as if it were a justification for tyranny - is just an attempt to obscure what is going on.

It's not about enforcing the law. It's about denying legal representation to those accused of being in the country illegally. Or, more likely, an act of petty revenge.Are you really going to claim that legal representation of the accused is an impediment to justice ?

I'd like to see them admit to what they are really saying. I would like to seem them say that anyone accused of being an illegal immigrant - even if it is untrue - loses all rights. I would like to hear them admit that - far from enforcing the law - this is about getting the outcome they want - the law be damned.I would like them to be honest and admit that their position is unAmerican and unChristian.Of course they won't. But we can at least make it clear that we can see what they really want through the gaping holes in the thin veil that they try to hold up.

Does it matter ? Obviously there are enough people wrongly accused or with legal options available that a lawyer's help can make a difference. And remember that being present in the country illegally is not even considered a crime!Now you tell me why the government feels the need to attack a non-profit organisation providing legal assistance to people who need it ?

And that lack of understanding is a very sad thing.And scary.That's the sort of thinking that the slave trade and the Holocaust were built on. Why not accord everyone some basic rights ? Why should any people be treated as things that the government can do literally anything to ?

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First I strongly doubt anyone is being accused of being illegal who isn't. How hard can it be find that out? And in any questionable case it ought to be easy enough to establish without a court case.

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Is it ? When being born in the geographical boundaries of the nation is sufficient to grant citizenship ? An unrecorded and unregistered birth might indeed be hard to establish. Even a registered and recorded birth can be disputed by those motivated to do so as we know all too well.

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I don't know about this particular nonprofit situation but it sounds like the usual "sanctuary city" mentality that defies American law and the rights of American citizens to help illegals.

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So long as that aid is merely legal assistance with the proceedings what possible objection can there be to it ?

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What on earth is wrong with preventing illegal entry into this country and encouraging people to come here legally? What is wrong with that perfectly sensible sane idea? Why are you supporting violations of American law? Why?

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How does legal assistance possibly come under this description ? Would you class a defence lawyer as "supporting violations of American law" ?

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What is the matter with you? The Leftist brain seems to be missing some essential piece. Or it's just programmed to accuse people of things we're not guilty of, accuse accuse accuse. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

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False accusations will not silence me.

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BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS don't need the Constitution to grant them. The Constitution is for Americans AND those visiting here LEGALLY.

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Then what does grant "basic human rights" ? And surely if the Constitution was intended to be restricted as you suggest it would say so.

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IF FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA IT WILL BE IN THE FORM OF LIBERALISM

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Odd then, that the actual fascists supported Trump.

I don't think that Trump cares about his case or the Constitution. And his supporters obviously don't care about the Constitution either. Maybe Trump still gets what he wants but if he doesn't he will use it as an excuse to attack the courts. Again.