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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
lying hypocrite.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Oh SEE those "current estimates," what a JOKE. ... Actually I was too high.
quote: So yes, the Trump bubble world is only 26% of America, people that actually support him. The really sad part, imho, is the number of people that did not vote - almost HALF of America basically saw no significant difference between Trump and Clinton. This is where Clinton lost. In the Alt-Reality world of Trump and his simpering minions 26% is a massive majority win with a mandate to become dictator for life. But even that is crumbling around the edges:
What??? Fox News criticizing the president for lying??? Are pigs flying???
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: However, I'll agree that the statement was far too optimistic. His opponents will never give in on any such true statement; they have to manufacture fake Constitutional interpretations, fake fake fake fake fake. The Federal Courts cannot make a fake interpretation Faith. By definition any interpretation they make IS the law. Basics Faith. Learn just a little about how our country works under law, about honesty and about reality.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Federal Courts cannot make a fake interpretation Faith. By definition any interpretation they make IS the law You're right about that, the courts DO make the laws, which is what that amounts to, usurping the role of the Legislature; all their slimy misreadings of the Constitution are treated as law no matter how twisted. You've all lost what shred of credibility the Left still had a decade ago, with the elevation of America-hating Communist-bred Islamist Obama to the Presidency, with all the worshipful messianic fervor bestowed on him, just as will be bestowed on the final Antichrist; and now that unbelievably twisted claim that he's the one who loves America? Oh that was dwise, not you, sorry I get you confused with each other sometimes with your unified support for the Big Lie. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: You've all lost what shred of credibility the Left still had a decade ago, with the elevation of America-hating Communist-bred Islamist Obama to the Presidency, with all the worshipful messianic fervor bestowed on him, just as will be bestowed on the final Antichrist; and now that unbelievably twisted claim that he's the one who loves America? More lies from you Faith. Obama was not worshiped, he was elected and elected by a far larger majority of both voters and Electoral College votes than il Donald. There is no evidence that Obama hated America, was Communist bred 9do you have any idea just how stupid that assertion sounds?) or that he was an Islamist. Actually, if you had ever actually read Revelation you must honestly admit that il Donald shows all the characteristics of the Beast. AbE: And just a little more reality and history. Under the US Constitution there are three sources for Laws of the Land; SCOTUS, Laws Passed by Congress and signed by the President and Treaties Ratified by Congress. The President has no powers of law except those granted specifically by the Constitution and delegated by the Congress and neither Congress or the Executive have the right to interpret Constitutional Issues. Edited by jar, : See AbE:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He wasn't worshiped? Did you miss the worshipful songs sung on his behalf, little children taught to sing "Obama's gonna lead us, Obama's gonna save us" or some such pie-eyed Nazi style adulation? Did you miss Oprah calling him "The One?" I put some of this up on my blog, maybe I can still find it. Even that logo with the Obama "sun" coming up. Actually he plunged us into deep darkness and if Trump can do anything to get us even partly out of this pit of slime we've been drowning in it will be a miracle.
Everything I said about Obama is true. Trump is the first real America-loving President we've had in decades. Too bad so many hate such a good thing.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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lying hypocrite. I am an American!. I served honorably in the United States military for thirty-five years! (six years active duty US Air Force, 29 years US Navy Reserve). At least seven times in my military career I have sworn a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And I most sincerely meant it every single time! Faith, have you ever served? Have you ever once in your entire life sworn a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic? No, I didn't think so. Should I also mention how, based on my decades of security training, Trump's display of classified government information in a discussion in the middle of a public dining area in Mar-a- Lago (private club membership, yes, but still filled with uncleared personnel (ie, civilians with no security clearances and absolutely no need to know)). Any idiot who had pulled such a stunt would have had his security clearance pulled in an instant and would be facing federal charges. Why do you think that your Trump should be given any slack? This is a clear and egregious violation of national security, after all. So, getting back to my actual post which you "responded to" (HA!!!):
DWise1 writes: Yes, the President has powers. So does the Legislature. And so does the Judiciary. It's called the Separation of Powers. It should have been covered in your civics class in high school, assuming you managed to stay awake in class. What we were taught was that the Founding Fathers were virtually paranoid about the rise of tyrants, having seen King George III as a tyrant. So to thwart the designs of a tyrant they incorporated that system of checks and balances which we call the Separation of Powers. It's kind of like the Strategic Air Command's (SAC's) "no lone" policy regarding access to nukes: no single individual may ever have access to nuclear weapons in any conceivable manner. It's also reflected in the handling of classified materials where the handling and destruction of classified materials must be with a second cleared individual, a witness, present. I know these things, because I am a 35-year military veteran who has performed said duties and has repeatedly sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies both foreign and domestic. So just because Presidents have been given certain powers does not mean that those actions cannot be reviewed, since any mortal man may try to exceed his authority. Such review is the duty of the Judiciary. So why are you complaining so much that the Judiciary is trying to do its Constitutionally mandated duty? So you think that the courts are so wrong? Do please explain why. In legal terms that would convince someone familiar with the Constitution of the United States of America. And while you are at it, a pure and complete hypothetical. For purely hypothetical reasons, just suppose that a tyrant has managed to get himself elected to the office of the President of the United States of America. What is the public reaction supposed to be to prevent him from destroying the Constitution and the country? In your own considered and infallible opinion. So then, Faith, if a tyrant were to have somehow managed to get himself elected to the office of the President of the United States of America, what is the public reaction supposed to be to prevent him from destroying the Constitution and the country? In your own considered and infallible opinion.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes Faith, I missed all those things. In addition, I am not so stupid as to think Oprah calling him "The One?" actually carries any weight. Sorry but no evidence of worship in any of those except in the eyes of someone totally out of touch with reality.
And no one hates Trump. We might fear him, be truly embarrassed that other civilized Nations see us with such a totally incompetent President who does not even seem to know how to lie effectively or be at all in touch with reality, we might worry about the harm he seems to be doing to the US and the world as he alienates allies, relinquishes US prestige, and creates the classic image of the Ugly American, but he hopefully can't remain in office for more than eight years so there is no reason to hate someone so insignificant.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is indeed very sad that so many voted for Obama, that alone shows the depths to which America has sunk. I don't dispute it, I just lament it.
I did find my post on Obama being worshiped but the YouTube evidence has been pulled of course. CHILDREN, taught in SCHOOL to sing of the greatness of our new Fuhrer. Which reminds me, my brilliant grandson is getting anti-Trump propaganda in HIS school. He brought me pictures he'd drawn -- he's such a good artist -- showing Trump as a monster in one and driving a tank into the White House in another. I'm sure you all think that's just fine that our children are being propagandized by the Left in our schools. And you can stop with the abuse of the idea of separation of powers. I already answered that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
More lies, jar. Cut it out.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So then, Faith, if a tyrant were to have somehow managed to get himself elected to the office of the President of the United States of America, what is the public reaction supposed to be to prevent him from destroying the Constitution and the country? In your own considered and infallible opinion. Well, such a tyrant DID get himself elected, name of Obama. I wish we knew what to do when that happens. Unfortunately the "public" was all in favor of his destruction of the Constitution and the country. Now that we have somebody in who wants to restore all that the same "public" is blowing things up and wants to assassinate him. You're wrong, dwise, you and the Left have no idea what is going on, you're supporting evil and calling it good and vice versa. If one of your crazed fellow Leftists succeeds in taking down Trump, I just hope the Rapture comes soon, I don't want to be here. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: I'm aware of that "evidence." I consider it spin, not truth. We're already familiar with your opinions. What you haven't provided is any facts underpinning what you believe. Your reluctance to discuss them can only be explained if no such facts exist, much like Trump and his many fact-free claims. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: It is indeed very sad that so many voted for Obama, that alone shows the depths to which America has sunk. I don't dispute it, I just lament it. But Trump lied about it. Lying is not quite the same as lamenting. Trump constantly lies and lies about stuff even you can fact check.
Faith writes: CHILDREN, taught in SCHOOL to sing of the greatness of our new Fuhrer. Yes, I don't doubt you make such a claim but I really have a very high degree of confidence that once again you are lying. I doubt any school child was ever taught to refer to Obama as our new Fuhrer.
Faith writes: And you can stop with the abuse of the idea of separation of powers. I already answered that. Sorry Faith but you simply can not answer that since Separation of Powers is a FACT in the US. Do you even know the derivation of the term Fuhrer? Do you understand that the US Constitution was designed to prevent the rise of a Fuhrer, particularly a Christian Fuhrer. Do you understand that the statement I posted in the Trump thread is exactly what would describe a Fuhrer?
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Faith writes: More lies, jar. Cut it out. Jar spoke the truth and it bears repeating. No one here hates Trump. We have to live in this country, and we wish him every success in terms of doing what is best for our country and the world. We hope his policies result in economic prosperity, happiness, freedom and world peace. But little he's done looks like it will end well. You don't bake a cake by blowing up the kitchen, but in effect that's what he's trying to do. We all hope he wakes up tomorrow and becomes honest, humble, compassionate and grounded in reality, but we know that's unlikely - he's been who he is for a very long time. --Percy
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Well, such a tyrant DID get himself elected, name of Obama. ... Well, such a tyrant DID get himself elected, name of Obama.
Uh, no, that did not happen. If you truly believe that did indeed happen, then do by all means show that that is indeed what had happened. Oh, you cannot. So we are back to the original that you were utterly unable to respond to;
So then, Faith, if a tyrant were to have somehow managed to get himself elected to the office of the President of the United States of America, what is the public reaction supposed to be to prevent him from destroying the Constitution and the country?
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