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Author Topic:   Questions based on a plain and simple reading of the US Constitution
Faith 
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Message 7 of 169 (800038)
02-19-2017 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Theodoric
02-19-2017 2:17 PM


Marc is right about what the preamble implies, who it covers. Sometimes I wonder how all the revisionists manage not to choke to death on the sophistries required to rationalize it.

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Message 19 of 169 (800069)
02-19-2017 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by herebedragons
02-19-2017 5:40 PM


Perhaps you missed Message 6 where Theodoric flatly denied what marc said about the Constitution's being written for citizens. Implying the whole thing applies to noncitizens as well.
"Great" means powerful, respected, prosperous, well-defended and populated by a majority of good people who love the country instead of creeps who try to destroy it when they don't get their way. And the racist slur in your argument is disgusting. Who cares what races come here? Only the racist Left who hate the white race.
And nobody is denying people within the borders of the US standard human rights and protections. Or outside the borders either for that matter.
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Message 30 of 169 (800096)
02-19-2017 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by herebedragons
02-19-2017 7:30 PM


IT IS NOT ABOUT RACE
I did not make a racist slur...
Identifying the race of immigrants as some kind of evidence of a previous racist policy is racist in itself. Everything has become about race that never was about race in the first place. "Diversity" is now about race, the lowest category of human division possible; not about ability, not about character,l not about cultural compatibility,l just raw stupid physical characteristics, exactly what MLK preached AGAINST. He wanted a color-blind society but the Left and Obama as its spearhead for the last eight years (That's why he's been called the Divider in Chief), have promoted the opposite, a culture of racism. Yes, the nation has always had quotas, not RACIAL quotes but quotas based on ability to contribute to OUR CULTURE,k to our economy, to our AMERICAN way of life. \Reducing everything to race is political correctness, NOT AMERICAN Constitutional idealism. The product of Leftist brainwashing in the universities, designed to destroy American culture. Wow has it succeeded. You have been taught to think like a racist, which is a plank in the platform designed to destroy America and the West. Oh if only you'd all wake up, all of you who have absorbed this destructive way of thinking.
I insinuated that when immigration is predominately white, it's good but when it's heavily Muslim or Mexican, it's bad.
That's because it IS bad. Both culturally undermining and ideologically dangerous. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE but you've bought into that lie. University influence probably because that's where most of it comes from. Destroy the minds of the young so they can destroy the whole culture and absorb us all into their totalitarian global exploitative system.
The rhetoric is that we need to protect ourselves from these "bad hombres" that are coming here to rape, steal, kill and change our sacred way of life.
Trump has emphasized the criminal element that is a big part of illegal entrance, and that's where he's focused, and he's quite right to focus there. Immigration quotas OF COURSE aim to keep out criminals. Sheesh. But as I say above, immigration is about WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, and that means the culture, the economy, the morality, all of it. IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE. That's the product of the dumbing-down designed to reduce us to a third world nation.
Our policy of being a nation of opportunity for ALL people regardless of their race or national origin is what has made us great
NO! That's part of the Leftist propaganda that's been making us UNGREAT for decades, that Trump has to undo to make us great again. NO! RACE IS IRRELEVANT. It's NOT ABOUT RACE. It's about MERIT, it's about CIVILIZATION, it's about MORAL AND PHILSOPHICAL COMPATIBILITY and it's about THE WILLINGNESS TO ASSIMJILATE. Which an awful lot of Muslims are NOT willing to do.
You've been brainwashed. A lot of people have been. It may be too late to undo it, I don't know.
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Message 48 of 169 (800583)
02-26-2017 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by jar
02-26-2017 6:43 AM


Re: Immigrants make America better
ILLEGAL immigrants CANNOT make America better. For one thing they include criminals because they haven't been screened. For another their very illegality contributes to the erosion of the law. They are an offense to all those who have come here legally, who are not happy about it. You are just pushing a crazed form of self-justifying propaganda.

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Message 51 of 169 (800650)
02-26-2017 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by jar
02-26-2017 8:33 AM


Re: Immigrants make America better
Sorry, there are definitely illegal immigrants who do NOT make America better. All the Hispanic gangs for instance.
Your post is an amazing collection of stupid attempts to turn what I said upside down, but everything I said stands. LEGAL immigrants ARE offended by the lawless attitude that allows the illegals to stay. And of COURSE you have to make it sound like I said they are ALL criminals, of course, just like a lying Leftist, like all those who did that to Trump when he talked about the illegal rapists. And of COURSE illegality contributes to the erosion of the law, meaning of course the rule of law, in the minds of both American citizens and illegals, how could it not?

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Message 55 of 169 (800659)
02-26-2017 5:18 PM
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02-26-2017 5:16 PM


Re: Immigrants make America better
Oooooooo typical PC, how original. Oh, and "Hispanic gangs" suggests "most" illegals? Ooooooo another typical misrepresentation.
We can deport illegals, we have to deal with homegrown gangs some other way. Duh.
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Message 58 of 169 (800675)
02-26-2017 7:41 PM
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02-26-2017 5:41 PM


Re: Immigrants make America better
Some laws should be broken, those laws that discriminate unjustly against minorities as an example. That is how the Rule of Law evolves (just like living things).
How wrong you are. That way leads to anarchy and to such criminal gangs as Black Lives Matter, and it's absolutely opposed to Martin Luther King's dream.

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Message 61 of 169 (800681)
02-26-2017 8:30 PM
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02-26-2017 8:15 PM


Re: Immigrants make America better
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?: Can't you think at all?
We are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. JAR said they are good for Ameirca. I said the Hispanic gangs are not. It would be HISPANIC gangs who are illegals, right? There are of course lots of other kinds of gangs, so to call them Hispanic differentiates them as belonging to the class of illegals And yes I suppose there are also legal Hispanics who form gangs too, but the CONTEXT WAS ILLEGALS. WHAT IS THE MASTTER WITH YOU EVIL NASTY HATEFUL LEFTISTS THAT YOU HAVE TO CALL EVERYONE A RACIST YOU DISAGREE WITH?
WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW THE ARGUMENT, KEEP TRACK OF THE CONTEXT. Obviously because the Left THRIVES oin political correctness and labeling people with the nastiest epithets in the PC arsenal. The hate is all coming from you.
Yuck you are disgusting
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Message 64 of 169 (800684)
02-26-2017 8:35 PM
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02-26-2017 8:31 PM


Re: Black Lives Matter
BLM is racist thugs.

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Message 69 of 169 (800695)
02-27-2017 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Theodoric
02-26-2017 8:49 PM


Re: Immigrants make America better
There are illegal alien gangs or gang members.
Who said white gangs are OK? The usual utterly demented inability to follow the argument in context just to have an excuse to call me names.
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Message 70 of 169 (800697)
02-27-2017 2:46 AM
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02-26-2017 8:49 PM


Re: Immigrants make America better
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Message 71 of 169 (800698)
02-27-2017 2:47 AM
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02-26-2017 8:47 PM


Re: Racist Thugs in Action
Everybody screams about my inadequate evidence, a google page for instance, but you get away with a lying photograph?
Where are the photos of them killing cops?

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Faith 
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Message 73 of 169 (800712)
02-27-2017 5:54 AM
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02-27-2017 5:44 AM


Re: Racist Thugs in Action
A lying photograph is a picture selected of an irrelevant moment, such as a moment when a violent protest is taking a nap after killing cops, while of course the cop killing moments are not photographed. Words can lie in the same way by forcing attention upon a tangential point to distract from the main point. It's done a lot around here.

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Message 75 of 169 (800716)
02-27-2017 6:38 AM
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02-27-2017 6:07 AM


Re: Racist Thugs in Action
Clearly you don't know it but you just did what I was describing. I suppose there may be photographs of cops being killed by the BLM, but jar didn't post them, did he? That's his lie. I won't accuse you of lying but by focusing on the tangential fact that there are lots of photographs of cops you obscure the main point as much as he did.
And let me guess. Your next post or somebody else's, will also major on a minor nitpick.
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Message 83 of 169 (800766)
02-27-2017 8:07 PM
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02-27-2017 5:36 PM


Re: Racist Thugs in Action
It's a complicated situation. There are outsiders who killed cops in sympathy with BLM, which isn't the BLM's fault, but on the other hand there are elements in BLM calling for violence.
Black Lives Matter Hypocrisy in Cheering Violence | National Review
abe: Black Lives Matter Protesters: "WE NEED TO START KILLING PEOPLE"; Calls For Trump's ASSASSINATION! (VIDEO)
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