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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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Wow, even one in China Two things Faith: 1) Pyongyang is the capital of North Korea. Kim Jong-il makes an appearance in it, if that wasn't clue enough. 2) It wasn't in China or Korea. It is a video from Reason.tv - American libertarians - who mashed the kids singing with imagery from North Korea to make their point. School teachers from one school being dumb is one thing - can you imagine it Trump had teenage girls do a song and dance routine at one of his rallies with lyrics like
quote: Well its OK though, because Trump didn't pay them, or give them their opportunity to sell the merchandise, and even slapped them with a gag order. I believe their position was that Trump 'stiffed' them. So that's cool, right?
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
I did think everyone would be at least superficially aware of the language in the email if nothing else, and wouldn't dispute its strangeness. quote: I highlighted the one email among many that is typically mentioned as being weird. Most of the conversation is clearly about....pizza. Another email had bold html tags, so they got highlighted too.
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Riggamortis Member (Idle past 2417 days) Posts: 167 From: Australia Joined: |
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736
We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be >> Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and >> almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in >> that pool for sure 3 young girls for entertainment. WikiLeaks - The Podesta Emails
> Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta? > Cos we all play dominoes on food items. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795
Hi John, The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it. A pizza-related map on a handkerchief, wtf? The alleged code.
hotdog = boy pizza = girl cheese = little girl pasta = little boy ice cream = male prostitute walnut = person of color map = semen sauce = orgy Edited by Riggamortis, : No reason given. Edited by Riggamortis, : No reason given.
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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3 young girls for entertainment. Children are entertaining - especially when they are going nuts in a pool. No pizza or cheese code here, I notice.
Cos we all play dominoes on food items. I do many activities on food items. I code on coffee. I've played pool on way too much pizza. This person was expecting pasta and received a lot of cheeses in a box as a gift:
quote: A pizza-related map on a handkerchief, wtf? Clearly a reference to a secret map to a child abuse den. Or maybe the person was organising a pizza party and drew a map on a handkerchief. Or maybe the map was a separate item entirely, that the handkerchief was wrapped around or placed upon. Nah, probably child abuse code, right? Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I know of no adults who would ever describe the presence of children at a party as "entertaining." And I'm sure you don't either.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't understand why you are going to such lengths to rationalize something that is so clearly weird as children singing adulatory songs about a President.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I did think everyone would be at least superficially aware of the language in the email if nothing else, and wouldn't dispute its strangeness. That should of course be the case but I forget, this is the alternative universe of EvC. So not a single quote of strange language from any of the emails? Instead protesting that your conclusions are obvious and that you should not even be asked to demonstrate even one example? I'm going to stop pretending to be surprised. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Phat Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
What about these children?
Also I have one question. Humans are universally similar. What is it that makes people politically on the left any worse---as humans---than people on the right? Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Somehow I don't see the similarity between a performance at a rally that celebrates principles, something like cheerleaders, and children in a classroom being taught to sing adulatory words to a song about a President, even putting his name in the place of Jesus Christ's, a man at least some of their parents despise.
Who said people on the left are bad? Their ideology is what is bad. Rotten bad. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I know of no adults who would ever describe the presence of children at a party as "entertaining." And I'm sure you don't either. It sounds to me like you are just inclined to find dirt where folks are claiming there is dirt. Surely you are old enough to remember the Art Linkletter show with the "Kids still say the darndest things" segment. What was the premise of that segment other than the entertainment value and wisdom shared by the youngest among us? Art published books full of that stuff almost of all of which is still capable of entertaining folks today. I suppose using your inane standard, folks who read those books are pedophiles. I frequently relate things my kids did when they were young to other folks and for the most part folks find that stuff somewhere between amusing and gut busting laughter inducing. Okay, some of it is boring to people who are not my kids parents. But by and large, the younger the kids, the more funny the stories. So, yeah, there is nothing particularly strange about referring to young kids as being entertaining. Of course if you are looking for some reason to find a pedophile behind every email, then you can turn lots of innocent language, like, "isn't she just adorable", into nasty stuff. That's what I think you are doing here. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I don't understand why you are going to such lengths to rationalize something that is so clearly weird as children singing adulatory songs about a President. Do you believe that this practice you are describing occurred among liberals in general? Given that Obama was not responsible, is there some reason that it reflects on him or the huge number of his supporters in any way. What is the difference between you picking on that video, and me claiming that some random Trump supporter who happens to be a neo-naxi represents you? Because I would consider both ideas to be pretty idiotic. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Riggamortis Member (Idle past 2417 days) Posts: 167 From: Australia Joined:
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[sarcasm] Oh thank god I have you to be the voice of reason so I don't get carried away with my tinfoil hat.[/sarcasm]
I'm sure you noticed that I made no statements regarding anything being evidence of a satanic child sex ring. Folks were talking about the weird emails so I found a couple and posted them along with a little comment to avoid posting bare links and quotes. My position is to neither believe nor dismiss the allegations. You, however, seem desperate to dismiss them.
Children are entertaining - especially when they are going nuts in a pool. No pizza or cheese code here, I notice. You often uber in some young girls for entertainment at your parties do you? How many party invites have you received where young girls were sold as the entertainment? They aren't referred to as anyone's children, which would make some sense. Children are entertaining but it is certainly weird for them to be considered the entertainment. I do many activities on food items. I code on coffee. I've played pool on way too much pizza. This person was expecting pasta and received a lot of cheeses in a box as a gift: I'm guessing you don't often ask people whether they think you'd be a better pool player on pizza or burgers though. Yeah it's still bloody weird.
Clearly a reference to a secret map to a child abuse den. Or maybe the person was organising a pizza party and drew a map on a handkerchief. Or maybe the map was a separate item entirely, that the handkerchief was wrapped around or placed upon. Nah, probably child abuse code, right? You aren't normally an arrogant, condescending prick Mod. What gives? All you seem to be saying is that if you can imagine some innocent way of interpreting the emails they must be innocent. Why are you so desperate to dismiss the possibility that there is something going on here?I'm sure many parents dismissed the possibility that their priest was molesting their children. I'm sure many mothers have dismissed the possibility that their partner was abusing their children. I'm not so eager to dismiss the possibility of an elite child abuse ring. You know people of all types are capable of being pedophiles, even police. What exempts the wealthy people who have the best chance of getting away with it? Edited by Riggamortis, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I know of no adults who would ever describe the presence of children at a party as "entertaining." And I'm sure you don't either. And I am sure that once again you are wrong. In fact I can think of few things more entertaining than children at play.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Actually I found some still up on You Tube:
Whoops. you're right. I was wrong. Now I remember that stuff. Which I and many others found to be pretty creepy. But they were individuals expressing their feelings. Many people were incredibly excited by our first black president.,
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