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Originally posted by Peter:
Darwinian evolution and ID are NOT at odds.
Darwinian evolution starts AFTER the emergence of life.
ID is about how the first life came into being.
ID is a contrary view to abiogenesis NOT evolution.
Evolution is a contrary view to special creation of diverse life forms.
Not so. ID covers a range of views, but it most certainly is in att odds with evolution in many cases.
Behe's standard example of the bacterial flagellum
could be about abiogenesis, but his other favourite example of the blood clotting mechanism certainly is not.
Whenr IDers to get round to discussing the designer they very rarely see the design process as a one-off incident, whereafter evolution takes over - rather, they see the designer as being continuously involved whenever new "designs" are needed.
Therein lies one potentially devastating falsification of Darwinian evolution: imagine a colony of bacteria in lab conditions in which all, simultaneously, in one generation acquired a new, irreducably complex, mutation. Behe would have a Nobel prize before Lamarck had stopped spinning in his grave.
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