can you imagine it Trump had teenage girls do a song and dance routine at one of his rallies with lyrics like
quote:Enemies of freedom Face the music Come on, boystake ‘em down! President Donald Trump knows how To make America great Deal from strength or get crushed every time
I had forgotten that too. Talk about officially sponsored creepy vs. individuals speaking up!
and I believe they were stiffed by the Trump campaign for their modest costs. Another ode to the deal-maker who seems more adept at being the deal-breaker.
Back in January, a trio of young girls known as the "USA Freedom Kids" performed at a Donald Trump rally in Pensacola, Florida. The routine, which involved the girls whirling in flashy American-flag dresses and singing a song that denounced the other presidential candidates as sworn enemies, was roundly mocked on social media, where viewers likened the video to performances honoring North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.
Now Jeff Popick, the creator behind the patriotic trio and father of the youngest member in the group, says he plans to sue Trump, alleging his campaign violated several verbal agreements and subsequently stiffed the group of proper monetary compensation.
But individual instances like these do not make a nation-wide program.
As often happens here, I tried to post a minimum of what I thought would be recognized as simple facts...
Would that it were so that you've tried to provide facts. A couple days ago you stated your true position, that you weren't interested in facts and evidence ("demanding evidence belongs somewhere else", Message 56) and refused to provide support for your claims.
Ah yes, well that is correct as far as it goes. Evidence to prove one poll better than another is way too much to ask, it's all subjective in the end anyway, trusting claims of what groups were polled and so on; and the problem is compounded in a political atmosphere where such information is designed to contribute to the destruction of a President.
But in the case of Pizzagate I know there are facts out there. There are copies of the Podesta emails somewhere that should show what I'm saying, and some of the information has already been posted by others here anyway. And my first post was only for the purpose of giving my impression of the situation until Hyroglyphx comes back. Unfortunately he may be a while getting back, though for the sake of this topic it would be good to know what he meant about having learned there may be some truth to the Pizzagate allegations. It's his claim, not mine. I opted to wait for him.
It would be nice if conversations here could be a little more ... casual? ... in my opinion, so that one COULD just say Here's what I know right now, without having to produce evidence every time you make such a remark, and having to be accused of scurrilous motives over every innocent observation. The topic is young, surely the evidence will eventually be forthcoming. Meanwhile I'm sipping my coffee over another bingewatch of Downton Abbey. It's so much more pleasant than pedophilia allegations.
If it aint one thing it's another, the another in this case being a professional performance, creeoy perhaps, who cares, but which of course is not an example of what we were talking about, the political indoctrination with religious overtones by a teacher of children captive in a classroom. And another Another is that of course we get to hear only the anti-Trump side of the story, the father's complaint. Of course. So what else is new?
The issue is that today the person originating Fake News is Trump
The problem is that it seems il Donald cannot make a single speech without creating new Fake News. He is a veritable Fake News Generator. It is why it seems no one seems able to trust anything he says except for his Fellow Travelers. They seem to believe or dismiss even the most absurd statements he makes.
Re: The issue is that today the person originating Fake News is Trump
Utterly irrelevant to the topic isn't it? Just can't resist inventing a reason to say something negative about Trump? Speaking of evidence, what ARE you talking about?
Re: The issue is that today the person originating Fake News is Trump
Faith writes:
Utterly irrelevant to the topic isn't it?
Not at all irrelevant Faith since the topic is Fake News.
Faith writes:
Just can't resist inventing a reason to say something negative about Trump? Speaking of evidence, what ARE you talking about?
Every single speech the man makes seems to contain fake and blatantly fake information like "Look what happened last night in Sweden" and "I won by the largest margin in history" and "More people attended my inauguration than Obama's" and "I will release my tax records" and "Mexico sends us their worst" and "Crime is at an all time high in the US" and "illegal immigrants are a major crime issue" and it just goes on and on Faith.
The man seems totally out of touch with reality or honesty.
Ah yes, well that is correct as far as it goes. Evidence to prove one poll better than another is way too much to ask,...
But that was your claim, that the Rasmussen poll was better than the Gallup poll. Again, you know this how?
The alternative that was suggested to you is that there's a better way of looking at the polls. Caffeine and I explained several times that Gallup polled everyone while the Rasmussen polled those likely to vote, and that this could account for the difference. In other words both polls are valid, within their respective error margins.
But in the case of Pizzagate I know there are facts out there.
No you don't. The Democratic campaign and Clinton were running a human trafficking and child prostitution ring out of pizza shops across the US? Really? You have serious problems recognizing the absurd.
It would be nice if conversations here could be a little more ... casual? ...
That would be a lot easier if didn't keep popping our nonsense meters off the scale. Polls are a credible subject, Pizzagate is absurd. Do you have any fake news to discuss that isn't?
It's so much more pleasant than pedophilia allegations.
From the thread I'm forbidden to post on, concerning England's shameful attempt to bar Trump from visiting.
Trump supporters have to wake up and smell the, well, not roses. Trump stinks, and the whole world knows it. Leaders and citizens across the globe are dismayed and concerned about what has happened to the US government. Turn it around in your mind and think about it: if Obama or Clinton had done and said the things Trump has done and said you'd be criticizing him in just the way we are. Discard your partisanship and join those who merely want what is best for the country. Make it known that even though you still want conservative policies aggressively pursued that it should be done responsibly and competently and in ways that don't make us a world-wide embarrassment and the object of global ridicule.
I'm not worried about being ridiculed by "world leaders" who are so indoctrinated in Political Correctness their nations are going to become Muslim within a few years with bloody consequences. If things are really that bad the whole world is going down and Trump's getting to meet with Queen Elizabeth or not is the least of our worries.
I know it's hard for anti-Trumpers but WE are the ones who want the best for our country, because we are the only ones who KNOW what is best for the country. Apparently a few Brits have the same view of things, but if in the end they choose to commit national suicide I'd prefer we not go down with them.
Trump is certainly guilty of vulgarity but speaking of Clinton, as Trump pointed out, he actually physically abused women; Trump did not.
Sorry, NOBODY ELSE would be as aggressive as Trump about the things that matter to conservatives.
The facts I was referring to are the actual emails. Those ARE facts. I've said absolutely nothing about the allegations some have based on those facts because all I know is that the emails are very strange, suggest something very strange, but exactly what it suggests I don't know and haven't said. The reality may be quite ugly even if the hyped allegations are incorrect. I don't know, which is why I haven't said. All I know, which I DID say, is that those emails are very strange and do suggest something ugly.
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