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I think the message we're actually trying to communicate is that you don't seem able to recognize the difference between the likely true and the absurdly unlikely. If you had examples in your Message 192 of actual "fake news" from one of the mainstream media outlets Trump's been attacking then I missed them. Could you present one of them again? Ah, spoken like a true conspiracy theorist.--Percy

Who are you trying to kid, Faith ?The President is the most senior person in the Government. Trump has been bringing in his own people. Congress is dominated by the Republicans. Who are these "Obama and anti-Trump" people who "own" the Government ? What lies - actual lies mind you not truths you want suppressed as is so often the case with you - do they agree with ? And I want actual evidence that they agree, not supposition and innuendo.

Please give the sources of these headlines.

Of course you KNOW I wasn't speaking literally but figuratively but that allows you to call me a liar doesn't it?

Huh? Why would you ask something silly like that? That Wikileaks leaked the Podesta emails is a fact accurately reported by the mainstream media. Pizzagate is hoax news not reported by the mainstream media (until its impact itself became news) that fooled a large number of people.--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.

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O my gosh. "Pizzagate" is a term that stands for a whole constellation of interpretations that I myself don't accept. The emails are strange and that's what I'm asking. Not whether they exist, but whether there is enough strangeness in them to raise a question.And, I don't know if I can prove it, but as I understand it the MSM were the first to report on the leak and I think also its implications in something to do with pedophilia, and the alternative media picked it up from them.

I think you must have misread PaulK's email. He did not call you a liar, not even close. He asked, "What lies [of the media] - actual lies mind you not truths you want suppressed as is so often the case with you - do they [the supposed Obama and the anti-Trump people] agree with?"--Percy

I didn't call you a liar but your reaction looks an awful lot like a confession that you were.Anyway the fact is that Trump lies. Trump complains that the media don't agree with his lies. That clearly fits. If your Obama supporters or Trump opponents in the government aren't making similar complaints you don't really have anything to match. (And "the other side is doing it too" is a pretty poor excuse even when it is true)

When dealing with newly coined and ambiguous terms you may have to set the dictionary down and ask people what they mean. Those are all from the Right; we all know they blatantly lie.The Left, though, doesn't lie blatantly. They spin and they opine as facts.It's totally different, but the end result is similiar: news stories that don't tell the truth.Now, deep down, there may be a nugget of truth buried in there, but that's not what people end up talking about. They talk about the story, and the story sometimes isn't true. I agree that the phrase is over-used and played-out and essentially meaningless now, but I'm not sure how great that disservice is. Our mainstream media is shitty and not worth my time.I mean, often I'll see a story on something I read on Reddit yesterday. Or they're fucking reading tweets from the public to me on TV, WTF!?Other than that it's just a bunch of bullshit spin and opinions. I disagree. The media spends their time trying to tell the people what their opinions should be. Journalism is dead to the mainstream.Too, with the internet, I don't need someone to present facts to me; I can go find them myself. Oh, well that's just a red herring.

This would be incorrect. According to Wikipedia, the Pizzagate news hoax originated with a tweet, spread to the Godlike Productions message board and 4chan, and then was picked up by YourNewsWire and other fake news sites.--Percy

Well, it's difficult to find the original stories as many of the sites have removed the original runs at this time. However, some remnants are out there. "Pope Francis forbids Catholics from voting for Hillary!""Bill Clinton's sex tape just leaked!"Hillary Clinton In 2013: ‘I Would Like To See People Like Donald Trump Run For Office; They’re Honest And Can’t Be Bought.’

Help us out. What was the false narrative that the explicit statements were spun into? A news agency does not have much control over folks who are intent on spinning innocence into guilt, but may have some responsibility if they do some of the spinning.So let's lay out this example and call out the actions or omissions of the news agency that led to promoting of spin.

Here's an anecdotal example of one in particular that I remember because I dug into it and was completely disappointed. I'm going from memory here and I don't have a link, take it for what's it's worth and don't bother with bothering me:One of my liberal friends shared a news article with me outraged at the problem of rape culture in our society and how this was a perfect example of it.The story was: Some guy got charged with raping two women and did not spend one day in prison.Wow that's strange, I thought, and I wondered what happened so I dug into it. When I finally got to the particulars of the case, it turned out that the prosecution dropped the charges due to a lack of evidence.The way the article was written, the guy had surely raped those girls, no doubt, and this was just our rape culture shining through. No mention of the lack of evidence and the prosecution not pursuing it. Nope, this guy got off scott free because our society loves rape Now, the facts of the matter weren't technically false. The guy did get that charge. And he did not spend a night in prison. Jail, sure, but prison no.But the news story, itself (i.e. what was being "sold"), was so far from the truth I can't call it anything but fake. That people are getting outraged by this stuff, and believing the hype, is outrageous in itself.

There is certainly not enough detail here to allow me to agree or disagree with you. There isn't even any way for me to compare what you read to anything Trump or anyone else is calling "fake news".Isn't there some current example that we can all research?