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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Live now...February 24, 2017 9:29 AM EST President Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference.
It's unbelievable. Trump is again talking about himself, fake news, and is again attacking the press. He claims that the press should use names when using "sources"... There should be a transcript later.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
marc9000 writes:
Remember when the buck stopped on Harry Truman's desk?
Trump doesn't have a magic wand, he's going to get blamed no matter what he does, or even if he were to do nothing.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Now does the buck stop in Trump Inc.'s coffers?
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 189 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Just before his talk his staff gave the press a background briefing; i.e. no naming of sources.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The President Trump executive order to expand the number of Border Patrol and ICE agents is not the first such surge. There was an earlier on right after 9-11 and perhaps we can learn from that.
In the earlier surge the goal was to increase the Border Patrol from the approximately 10,000 personnel level to the current 20,000 person level. It took from 2001 to 2008 to reach that goal. This surge is somewhat more challenging, an increase of over 15,000 people with specific job designations, Border Patrol Agents, Pilots and drone operators and ICE agents. To do that there will also need to be additional staffing personnel, more folk to do background and security checks as well as training personnel and facilities. With 9-11 there was an immediate perceived threat, realistic threat or not, a clear perceived threat. That is missing today. And the check is still not even in the mail.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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The people who read Mein Kampf understood where Hitler was going. Lets examine Donald Trumps book:
Trump in the Art of the Deal writes: : The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. And then again I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggerationand a very effective form of promotion. Expert on Nazism explains the shocking similarities between Trump and Hitler’s propaganda tactics Nicholas O’Shaughnessy is Professor of Communication at Queen Mary, University of London and currently Visiting Professor at King’s College London. His book Selling Hitler: Propaganda and the Nazi Brand has just been published by Hurst in the UK and distributed by Oxford University Press in the USA. quote: Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat, look up "It can't happen here".
AbE: By the way, on the tenth grade English class reading list. Edited by jar, : see AbE
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
It Can't Happen Here One parallel that I see involves this whole idea of the source of the news. The nazis didn't want conservative news nor liberal news. They simply wanted National Socialist News. Too many people do not trust the news unless it comes from ultra right wing Alex Jones...who somehow has them convinced that he and he alone has the pulse of truth. I am beginning to see the wisdom in examining content before worrying about the source. Another thing I have noticed. Donald Trump is more entertaining than any parody of him ever could be. Hilarious yet sad. We definitely live in interesting times. One more note: To any of you who see yourselves as Christian. Jesus did not see Himself as a part of this world. He was neither a socialist nor a right wing nationalist. Perhaps you are fighting the wrong battles.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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So a question Phat. If kids in the 9th or 10th grade study stuff like "It can't happen here" do you think they would be more likely to recognize propaganda and marketing when they were old enough to become voters?
Is is worth while inoculating children against bullshit just like mumps or polio?
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Trump signed another really stupid executive order calling for Regulatory Reform Task Forces in each agency to look at regulations and recommend all that might inhibit business.
Sounds good. But there is no mention in any of the guidelines about workplace safety, the environment, quality of life, general welfare or any of the things that make the US today a place where the rivers have fish in them that many can even eat, the rivers are not burning, the air can be seen through and does not kill you if you breath it, that keep companies from dumping poisons in the ground or water... The man is a direct threat to all living in the US as well as the world in general. Hopefully Canada and Mexico will quickly file lawsuits to protect the common water supplies. Edited by jar, : are ---> and appaling spallin
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Khalilah Camacho-Ali and her son were detained and questioned by US Immigration Officials at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport. They were sneaking back into the US from Jamaica.
Khalilah Camacho-Ali was released when she showed the officials a picture of her with the famous American boxer with the same last name. The son though had no such picture and so was detained and questioning continued for hours. He was asked repeatedly if he was a Muslim which he affirmed and where he got his name. Although he did not have a picture with the famous boxer of that name he did have his US Passport showing that he was born in Philadelphia, PA and that he got his name from his father, the famous boxer of the same name and the famous boxer's I feel so much safer today. Edited by jar, : precedence
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ramoss Member (Idle past 633 days) Posts: 3228 Joined:
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I think being surrounded by a combination of retired generals and white supremists is even MORE dangerous.
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
dwise1 writes: marc9000 writes: We've heard it trumpeted "Hillary won the popular vote!!!" enough times to see that. You forgot to include the part where, yes, she actually did win the popular vote. By about 3 million. I didn't forget, I just didn't include it because it's totally meaningless. Not only because it isn't how elections are decided in the U.S., but because I, for one, have not one iota more respect for the inner-city mob vote than I do for illegal alien votes.
It shouldn't matter, except that it takes away any Trump Administration claim of having an overwhelming mandate. And it certainly does seem to matter to Trump and his fragile ego. It seems to matter far too much. It seemed that in just about every speech he gave since the Inauguration he would brag about his electoral win being the biggest (not by a long shot!) and the crowds at his inauguration being the biggest (again, not by a long shot!) Trump has personality issues, some are amused by them, some hate him for them. I don't care either way, as long as he does what he said he would do during the campaign. So far he has.
and claim that Clinton's three million vote popular victory was due to voter fraud committed by three million illegal aliens. I'm not sure he actually put a number on the voter fraud issue. It could have only been two million illegal aliens, with the other million courtesy of inner-city mobs. If you Democrats want to believe there's absolutely NO voter fraud in the U.S., go ahead and object to any investigation of it. I heard a few years ago that in the Philadelphia area, there were precincts that showed NO votes at all for Romney. No one, even Democrats, should condone, or look the other way, at possibilities of voter fraud.
Sorry, but Trump is obviously mental. A President must be able to take all kinds of criticism and Trump has proven to be incapable. He makes an outrageously false statement or insults the leader of another country and his entire staff has to scramble to perform damage control. After effectively laying the ground for another war with Mexico (adding a few more lines to the Marine Corps Hymn), Tillerson and Kelly are down in Mexico trying to undo the damage that Trump had done. Mexico is concerned about how their people are being treated and that the military should not be involved and Tillerson and Kelly assured them that it is not a military operation. Just in time for Trump to boast that it's a military operation. He's made no more mistakes than other presidents before him, in their first 6 months or year in office. The reason it took them so much longer to make theirs is because that's how long it took them to attempt to actually get something done.
What's the longest sentence you can think of that Trump has used? Long sentences? Is there any stone left unturned for the left to dream up things to criticize him for?
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
That's the world we live in. It's economics. It's marketing. Just become smart about it. One of the major newspapers from years ago in my area (out of business now, still on the net, but not paper) had one characteristic that was/is normal for liberal newspapers, they hated the trucking industry. Several years ago, a pickup and a car collided on a local interstate, and both of them ended up in the grass alongside the interstate. The headline read; TRUCK CRASH INJURES TWO, along with a picture of the accident scene. No problem right? The problem is, the picture was taken from a high elevation from a hill several hundred feet away, and the mangled remains of the car and pickup were at the bottom of the picture, a small in insignificant part of the picture. What was the main, attention getting part of the picture, right in the center? A tractor-trailer going by. It had nothing at all to do with the accident, the picture was snapped at that moment to mislead anyone who just skimmed headlines and pictures. Another example - an accident from my area in 1988 was the "Carrolton Bus Crash", I'm sure you heard of it, a freak accident where a mini-pickup hit a full-sized bus head on, a glancing blow, enough that no one was seriously hurt by the collision, but the bus caught fire. The driver of the pickup was described in more than one headline as a "truck driver", in spite of the fact that the proper definition of a truck driver is one who drives a truck for a living, almost always a heavy truck. The implication for those not paying close attention was that a tractor trailer driver ruthlessly killed 27 people. It's dishonest, yet they can't technically be held accountable for misleading in either one of those headlines. These two examples are similar to the games that are played by the news media against Trump.
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