The Disgusting Berkeley Riots

The only case I know of where a cop killed a black man without any cause whatever was prosecuted and the cop is in prison. That was te guy who ran from a routine stop; the cop shot him in the back and then tried to make it look like the guy had stolen his tazer or something like that.Otherwise they are absurdly "protesting" the cases we've discussed here before of blacks being accidentally killed -- the kid in the park they thought had a gun, the guy selling cigarettes on the street who was suffocated by improper holding under the supervision of a black woman supervisor,and the rest I'm aware of were shot in self defense. If there others I'm not aware of, well I'm not aware of them.I'm not saying there isn't some racism in police departments that needs addressing, apparently there is, but the killings I know about have nothing to do with thatq. If it really was about racist cops against innocent blacks I'd be for it as long as it remained a peaceful protest. But it's violent so it's not a protest. So it has two strikes against it.They also preach murdering "white people."No, they are the racists.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The number of "accidents" seems to be somewhat disproportionate. And you should know by now that what the police say is sadly not always true.

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They also preach murdering "white people"

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You know, if you wanted to convince me that you are an extreme racist, repeating vicious and unsubstantiated accusations like that is exactly the way to do it.So, do you intend to be reasonable about this and either provide good evidence - evidence that really is good - or retract the accusation ?

I wasn't trusting anybody. I followed all the cases I mentioned very very carefully, I discussed them here, I provided quotes and pictures where they were available. I know what happened in the case of the boy who was shot to death in the park. He had a toy gun the cops tragically took for real. There is surveillance footage of what happened as he approached the police car and got shot to death. The cops were fearful and shot him. They were crouching down behind the car. Yes it's sad but it was an accident, perhaps blameable on nervous trigger-happy cops but still an accident, not racist murder.The other guy, Garner? I think, had been resisting arrest and was thrown to the ground and held down until he suffocated due to some medical problem. Nobody intended that, so it has to be called an accident. It was a black woman supervisor who gave the orders too so you can't call it racist.I also saw the video footage of the cop murdering the black guy and trying to cover it up. That's a case where it is a really good thing there was a witness who had a camera because otherwise all we'd have is the cop's testimony.And I also followed the cases where the cop was attacked by the black guy, usually in the act of arresting him for a crime. There's no point in trying to reason with someone like you as it is, who jumps on everything I say to make the absolute worst you can of it, so why would I care about your latest stupid evil conclusion about me?Apparently I am privy to news reports none of you ever see. The threats against "white people" by BLM protestors are out there everywhere but you seem not to have heard of it?Here's another google page. Ignore it if you like, it's up to you.Google&*And Front Page Mag:
Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David HorowitzEdited by Faith, : No reason given.

That policeman is not in prison. He was tried and a mistrial was declared because at least one member of the jury refused to convict him even after seeing the video. Officer Slager is currently out on bond.

There are others. And if you remember the discussions you surely know that there are some serious questions. Does a guy selling single cigarettes really need to be treated as a dangerous criminal ?

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There's no point in trying to reason with someone like you as it is, who jumps on everything I say to make the absolute worst you can of it, so why would I care about your latest stupid evil conclusion about me?

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How odd that that comes just after I give you the chance to redeem yourself.It is also funny that you still insist on posting pages of links instead of picking out something that actually supports you. Did you learn nothing from your embarrassment over the "rich people being forced to give up their homes" fiasco ?And perhaps you might look at where your stories come from. You ought to realise that there are racists among the far right.

Your memory is extremely selective.The cause of Eric Garner's death was asphyxiation caused by being placed in a chokehold, an action that was against police department policy. The medical examiner ruled the case a homicide. Why did you not mention that? If you are not aware, his family was given a multi-million dollar settlement after the city attorney refused to prosecute.Killing of Eric Garner - Wikipedia

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On August 1, Garner's death was found by the New York City Medical Examiner's Office to be a result of "compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police." ... The medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide.

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Oh thank you SO much for accusing me of having a "selective memory" Between you and Theodoric and rrhain and PaulK and half a dozen others I'm treated with such kindness and grace here.No, I did not know about that. And my opinion at this distance is that it is a strange miscarriage of justice since it was an accident.Put that in your pipe and smoke swallow it, choke on it, who cares.

Why are you talking crap about stuff you know nothing about? Where in the world did you get that BS version of events that you put in your post?I'll note here that you did not even get the facts regarding Officer Slager right. Doesn't that bother you in the least? You should know by now that you make substantial errors like that you are going to get called on them.Even if you take the position that Eric Garner and Tamir Rice's deaths were accidents, fatal accidents often occur because an improper amount of care was taken. In the case of Rice, you seem to acknowledge haste being a factor in the resulting accident to use your terms. Such accidents are at best negligence, and at worse gross disregard for the consequences of ones actions. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I gave a good enough account of what I actually saw. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Goodness gracious me. Faith is getting a bit fiery.

The best way to treat racists is to show them facts. Expose their hate to the world to see.
Please provide evidence showing that the BLM preaches this.

You get really testy when we call out your lies and racism. We must be hitting close to home with you.There is no need to swear. If the debate is too upsetting for you leave, but please don't swear at us. That is, well, childish.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

And again Faith, the so called sources are all the usual suspects, the ones that have been shown to be liars. In addition the reports are once again simply innuendo. Yup, nutjob David Horowitz again.We know the claims Faith but where is there any evidence? Where is there more than innuendo?What does this have to do with the Berkley Riots?

Yep. It sounds like "lives matter" so people should stop shooting people. When unarmed black lives are shot woth little excuse, those lives matter. Only so long as it does not obscure the epidemic of black lives shootings.Enjoy

Actually, your account failed to include facts that were contrary to your attempt to dismiss any culpability of the police. You really are going to have to stop relying on your memory.Here is what you would have seen if you looked: Profanity edit by me.... Perhaps some prayer closet time would be in order. Maybe some blog time as well?Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.