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PaulK
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Message 126 of 275 (800382)
02-22-2017 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by NoNukes
02-22-2017 4:12 PM


Re: Yiannopolous redeemed himself
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Who does that and isn't a moron?
Maybe the sort of person who tries to pass off her guesses as facts ?

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Message 165 of 275 (800692)
02-27-2017 12:15 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Faith
02-26-2017 6:20 PM


Re: targets
So you think that the police killing unarmed Black people is a good thing. So good that protesting against it should be seen as being as bad as a racist murder. Doesn't that sound just a bit racist to you ?

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PaulK
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Message 167 of 275 (800696)
02-27-2017 2:37 AM
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02-27-2017 2:17 AM


Re: targets
The number of "accidents" seems to be somewhat disproportionate. And you should know by now that what the police say is sadly not always true.
quote:
They also preach murdering "white people"
You know, if you wanted to convince me that you are an extreme racist, repeating vicious and unsubstantiated accusations like that is exactly the way to do it.
So, do you intend to be reasonable about this and either provide good evidence - evidence that really is good - or retract the accusation ?

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Message 170 of 275 (800702)
02-27-2017 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Faith
02-27-2017 3:15 AM


Re: targets
There are others. And if you remember the discussions you surely know that there are some serious questions. Does a guy selling single cigarettes really need to be treated as a dangerous criminal ?
quote:
There's no point in trying to reason with someone like you as it is, who jumps on everything I say to make the absolute worst you can of it, so why would I care about your latest stupid evil conclusion about me?
How odd that that comes just after I give you the chance to redeem yourself.
It is also funny that you still insist on posting pages of links instead of picking out something that actually supports you. Did you learn nothing from your embarrassment over the "rich people being forced to give up their homes" fiasco ?
And perhaps you might look at where your stories come from. You ought to realise that there are racists among the far right.

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Message 190 of 275 (800988)
03-02-2017 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by Faith
03-02-2017 12:46 PM


Re: targets
Would it have been prosecuted without BLM drawing attention to it ?
With people like you writing it off as "an accident" and calling the verdict a "miscarriage of justice" without taking the facts into consideration I think we have good cause to suspect otherwise - and even so BLM obviously serves as a needed corrective.

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Message 203 of 275 (801011)
03-02-2017 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Faith
03-02-2017 1:35 PM


Re: targets
quote:
You obviously don't recall the original discussion, where I got into all the issues quite deeply
Then perhaps you can show me what in this discussion justifies writing it off as just an accident without considering issues of negligence.
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and all you care about is finding something to accuse me of. Typical, of course, and typically underhanded
Look Faith we know what a nasty little liar you are. There is no need to keep on demonstrating it.
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I considered all the issues as presented in the news at the time, that were discussed here too.
And what facts lead you to dismiss any possibility that the policeman was guilty despite using an unapproved hold and ignoring clear signs of distress ?
quote:
Apparently I got all the other examples right
That is hardly a safe assumption
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It doesn't matter whether it was an accident or a homicide as far as not providing an excuse for BLM
So you say is no excuse for protesting the number of unarmed blacks killed by the police - often in questionable circumstances. I think that is exactly the sort of thing that should be protested.
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Besides, doesn't homicide imply intention?
No
Criminal homicide takes many forms including accidental or purposeful murdeR
Wikipedia
Murder requires intent, but homicide includes manslaughter.
Edited by PaulK, : Correct tag

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Message 221 of 275 (801058)
03-03-2017 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by Faith
03-02-2017 8:54 PM


Re: the big picture
I would suggest that anyone who automatically calls a depiction of a peaceful BLM protest a lie is hardly going to have a fair view of the matter.
And can you please stop calling all criticism of you and your attitude "poisonous". When you are arrogantly shoving your shortcomings in our faces it is hardly our fault if we object to them.

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Message 227 of 275 (801197)
03-04-2017 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by Faith
03-04-2017 3:20 AM


Re: the big picture (BLM)
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"FOUNDED BY MARCIST REVOLATIONARIES" says it all for me. If any of them are truly committed to a peaceful protest and a genuine resolution of the problems they want to highlight, they need to start a completely new movement.
But is it true, or just a lie from far-right propagandists ? It certainly looks like the latter, and - if it is - what is to stop the propagandists lying about any new group ?

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