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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What crap.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1967 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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Why is something he said in private and would never say in public, a "locker room" comment that lots of men might say in private... Geez, what kind of men do you hang around? Most respectable men don't boast about sexual assault, in locker rooms or otherwise.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not about men I know, about media jumping on a private remark.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1967 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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...about media jumping on a private remark. And rightfully so. I certainly want to know if a candidate for the highest office in the land boasts about sexual assault, and whether that remark is said in private or public is wholly irrelevant.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There was no "sexual assault" and by the way Clinton did physically assault many women. Did that turn you against him?
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1967 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
There was no "sexual assault"... I said "boasting about sexual assault," not actual sexual assault. If you don't consider his remarks boasting about sexual assault, then we clearly have different standards for what constitutes sexual assault.
...and by the way Clinton did physically assault many women. Did that turn you against him? I was in elementary school when Clinton was POTUS, so I wasn't exactly capable of formulating a concise political opinion at the time. That being said, I am absolutely no fan of Clinton. I'm more of a strident progressive than a DNC traditionalist.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined:
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I am aware of no physical assault by Bill Clinton. Can you list them?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Are you taking into account that he was talking about the attitude of groupie type women? Women who invite sexual touching by "stars?" In that context I can't think of him as boasting. About something a groupie invited? How do you boast about that?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1430 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The media's USE of the vets' responses. (a) so the media responses were not fake news even though Trump says they are all fake? (b) so reporting what people say (publishing tweets from people) is fake? Funny.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Something can be literally true and due to context and intent or selective focus be fake.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1967 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
"Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
- "I don't even wait" is the language and phrasing of a sexual predator. - "They let you do it" is not the same thing as "They want me to do it."
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's boasting. But it's also a joke because he's not going to kiss her and when he greeted her it was all normal talk.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
And note that Trump was presenting it as something he has done and expects to go on doing - not just something he thinks he might be allowed to do.
And that is definitely boasting.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In that context I can't think of him as boasting.
That's boasting.
A sudden change of view there.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Bottom line: There's no evidence of his DOING any of it, it's all talk.
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