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Faith 
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Message 571 of 710 (801160)
03-03-2017 3:15 PM
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03-03-2017 2:22 PM


What crap.

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Genomicus
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Message 572 of 710 (801161)
03-03-2017 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 557 by Faith
03-03-2017 1:08 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
Why is something he said in private and would never say in public, a "locker room" comment that lots of men might say in private...
Geez, what kind of men do you hang around? Most respectable men don't boast about sexual assault, in locker rooms or otherwise.

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Faith 
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Message 573 of 710 (801162)
03-03-2017 3:20 PM
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03-03-2017 3:17 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
Not about men I know, about media jumping on a private remark.

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Genomicus
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Message 574 of 710 (801163)
03-03-2017 3:24 PM
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03-03-2017 3:20 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
...about media jumping on a private remark.
And rightfully so. I certainly want to know if a candidate for the highest office in the land boasts about sexual assault, and whether that remark is said in private or public is wholly irrelevant.

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Faith 
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Message 575 of 710 (801164)
03-03-2017 3:30 PM
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03-03-2017 3:24 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
There was no "sexual assault" and by the way Clinton did physically assault many women. Did that turn you against him?
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Genomicus
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Message 576 of 710 (801166)
03-03-2017 3:35 PM
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03-03-2017 3:30 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
There was no "sexual assault"...
I said "boasting about sexual assault," not actual sexual assault. If you don't consider his remarks boasting about sexual assault, then we clearly have different standards for what constitutes sexual assault.
...and by the way Clinton did physically assault many women. Did that turn you against him?
I was in elementary school when Clinton was POTUS, so I wasn't exactly capable of formulating a concise political opinion at the time. That being said, I am absolutely no fan of Clinton. I'm more of a strident progressive than a DNC traditionalist.

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Message 577 of 710 (801167)
03-03-2017 3:36 PM
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03-03-2017 3:30 PM


Assault
I am aware of no physical assault by Bill Clinton. Can you list them?

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Faith 
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Message 578 of 710 (801168)
03-03-2017 3:49 PM
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03-03-2017 3:35 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
Are you taking into account that he was talking about the attitude of groupie type women? Women who invite sexual touching by "stars?" In that context I can't think of him as boasting. About something a groupie invited? How do you boast about that?

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Message 579 of 710 (801169)
03-03-2017 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 539 by Faith
03-03-2017 11:58 AM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal ...
The media's USE of the vets' responses.
(a) so the media responses were not fake news even though Trump says they are all fake?
(b) so reporting what people say (publishing tweets from people) is fake?
Funny.

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Faith 
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Message 580 of 710 (801170)
03-03-2017 3:56 PM
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03-03-2017 3:50 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal ...
Something can be literally true and due to context and intent or selective focus be fake.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Genomicus
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Message 581 of 710 (801171)
03-03-2017 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 578 by Faith
03-03-2017 3:49 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
"Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
- "I don't even wait" is the language and phrasing of a sexual predator.
- "They let you do it" is not the same thing as "They want me to do it."

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Faith 
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Message 582 of 710 (801173)
03-03-2017 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 581 by Genomicus
03-03-2017 3:59 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
That's boasting. But it's also a joke because he's not going to kiss her and when he greeted her it was all normal talk.

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Message 583 of 710 (801174)
03-03-2017 4:03 PM
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03-03-2017 3:59 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
And note that Trump was presenting it as something he has done and expects to go on doing - not just something he thinks he might be allowed to do.
And that is definitely boasting.

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Message 584 of 710 (801175)
03-03-2017 4:05 PM
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03-03-2017 4:02 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
In that context I can't think of him as boasting.
That's boasting.
A sudden change of view there.

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Faith 
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Message 585 of 710 (801176)
03-03-2017 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 583 by PaulK
03-03-2017 4:03 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal
Bottom line: There's no evidence of his DOING any of it, it's all talk.

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