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Message 2 of 960 (801200)
03-04-2017 4:46 AM
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03-04-2017 4:32 AM


When you describe all press criticism of the government as a "totalitarian" tactic, you lose any pretence of offering a serious critique. You are not an opponent of totalitarianism of the left. You are an advocate for totalitarianism of the right.

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Message 4 of 960 (801203)
03-04-2017 5:04 AM
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03-04-2017 4:52 AM


The whole "fake news" is a gambit intended to shut up opponents. There are rightist assassinations and bombings. A Labour MP was assassinated only last year. And, of course, Trump supporters are implicated in the violence at Trump,rallies with Trump himself providing encouragement.

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Message 6 of 960 (801205)
03-04-2017 6:02 AM
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03-04-2017 5:19 AM


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No, it's not. It's a DEFENSIVE move against the fake news plots on the Left that threaten to shut down all conservative internet sources.
Because obviously falsely labelling real news that reflects badly on Trump as "fake" is intended to do that.
quote:
Of course there are rightist assassinations, but there is nothing going on from the right like the social media calls for Trump's assassination which are ongoing, and all the violent "protests" are on the Left.
Because joking remarks on Twitter are so much more serious than actual assassinations.
quote:
This is absolutely false. All the violence is provoked by Leftist infiltrators, just as it is at the Town Hall meetings. Trump supported defensive moves against it.
Because punching protesters upon the face is such a good way of keeping the peace.

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Message 79 of 960 (801332)
03-05-2017 7:48 AM
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03-05-2017 7:39 AM


Re: Leftist spin as usual on the Trump Presidency thread
The facts are rather clear and the Trump administration has got off to a confused start - and I doubt we've heard the last of it.
And really, why should Percy care that Trump supporters disagree ?
How many supporters do you need before all the critics are supposed to shut up ?

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Message 83 of 960 (801342)
03-05-2017 10:08 AM
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03-05-2017 8:28 AM


Re: Leftist spin as usual on the Trump Presidency thread
Consider us reminded that Trump supporters are partisan loons who refuse to hear he truth and that Trump was elected as a stupid joke. Which makes as much sense as any explanation of how he won.

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Message 109 of 960 (801407)
03-06-2017 1:54 AM
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03-06-2017 1:27 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
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I really don't know if you liberals/leftists are mentally deficient or so locked into your leftist bubble you have had no exposure to things we on the right have known for years, but the point is that Political Correctness was Mao's term for the Party Line that had to be toed by everyone or else
I think that you are the one locked in a bubble. Certainly the Wikipedia article has no such reference - despite going into the history of the term in some depth. And certainly the rise of the term in the late '80s had no emphasis on Mao at all.
As for Horowitz I will just point out that you are incredibly willing to believe even the wildest unsubstantiated accusations against "leftists" while being very reluctant to believe accusations against those you consider to be on your side.
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I heard recently, correct me if something's changed or is wrong, that France's popular candidate for President, Marine LePen is threatened with imprisonment for saying that ISIS is dangerous. That's Political Correctness in actual operation, which hasn't yet come here.
I can assure you that she is not threatened with arrest for just "saying that ISIS is dangerous"

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Message 118 of 960 (801416)
03-06-2017 3:34 AM
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03-06-2017 3:24 AM


Re: Faith's Paranoid Lunacy
Faith, have you considered that the main reason you have problems finding support is that you ARE repeating "batshit crazy" conspiracy theories ?
(Because that is pretty damn obvious to the rest of us)

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Message 119 of 960 (801417)
03-06-2017 3:36 AM
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03-06-2017 3:33 AM


Re: Political Correctness
But the meaning of "political correctness" HAS been changed. HBD is entirely right about the way the term was used when it first became popular.

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Message 122 of 960 (801420)
03-06-2017 4:01 AM
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03-06-2017 3:42 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Nonsense. There is no reason to believe that common usage was dictated by a Marxist conspiracy - and no way to say that the common usage was wrong.
As for the abuse - that is just a typical tactic of the totalitarian Right which you so eagerly support.

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Message 125 of 960 (801423)
03-06-2017 4:14 AM
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03-06-2017 4:05 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Sure, Trump is picking a fight with the media because they won't act as his propaganda arm. He tried picking a fight with the courts because they won't let him ignore the Constitution - and that's just Trump! And there seem to be many people supporting him in these fights.
And then we see this vicious demonisation of the Left which certainly looks like a pretext for suppression.
The totalitarian Right is a reality, and a real threat to freedom.

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Message 137 of 960 (801450)
03-06-2017 11:10 AM
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03-06-2017 10:12 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
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Ok, now this is just plain dumb. We have physical evidence that these groups of people inhabited this continent for over 5,000 years, which means they must have arrived very shortly after the flood. Or are you thinking there may have been people living here more than 10,000 or 20,000 years ago that deserves the title "Native American."
It may be worse than that. Unable or unwilling to accept that the native peoples were able to build the more impressive remains, some people attributed those to a "lost" (and of course, White) race. While the racist history of the idea isn't empahasised it still shows up in fringe "history" and it would not at all surprise me if Faith picked it up from there, unaware.
Needless to say, relying on ideas that have no basis other than racism to deny that the pre-European inhabitants deserve to be called "Native" is hardly good, even when it is done unwittingly.

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Message 146 of 960 (801467)
03-06-2017 1:35 PM
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03-06-2017 1:30 PM


Re: Political Correctness
I don't know. Why are you astonished at your lunatic fantasy ?
Seriously Faith if all you can do is present the dubious - and often false - claims made by right-wing extremists as facts - backed up with insults - you are not engaged on reasoning, nor is it in the least stupid to disagree with you.
So stop throwing your nasty little tantrum and start acting like an adult.

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Message 152 of 960 (801486)
03-06-2017 2:55 PM
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03-06-2017 2:49 PM


I doubt that Soros would pay anyone to argue with a ranting lunatic on an obscure website. Even if he was running the absurd conspiracy imagined by the totalitarian Right.
And if he did send an agent here to try to discredit the Right, you and Marc would be much better value.

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Message 161 of 960 (801500)
03-06-2017 4:25 PM
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03-06-2017 4:17 PM


Re: Political Correctness
So your idea of "totalitarianism" is refusing to submit to you.
Who was the one insisting that the courts weren't allowed to stop Trump ? Who was the one who insisted that the courts decisions were wrong without even bothering to read them let alone understand the legal basis ? Who routinely tries to pass off her opinions off as facts and insults people who disagree ? Who feels free to falsely attack others but screams when her own egregious faults are pointed out ?
I'd say that that person is the biggest totalitarian on the site.

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Message 166 of 960 (801511)
03-07-2017 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 165 by Faith
03-07-2017 2:09 AM


Re: Summary on PC
It's funny how so much of your idea of PC applies to you rather than your opponents.

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