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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is certainly an ideological right-left divide, but there is no comparison between their methods. Even ideologically it's hard to get a fair assessment of the right by the left. The political quizzes that have been put up recently show the bias.
I just heard a great talk by David Horowitz in which he characterized an argument between a leftist and a conservative as Godzilla against Bambi, because of the Left's powerful arsenal of accusations against the Right, the accusations of racism and all the rest of the PC baggage, while the right is always on the defensive and has nothing comparable to answer with. He also described the Leftist strategy as a version of Christianity, which I thought very interesting. There's nothing genuinely Christian about it, but Marx himself had experience of Liberal Christianity and made use of some of it in his ridiculous economic and social theories too. The concept of "Social Justice," which has recently been incorporated into some versions of Liberal Christianity, is a Marxist idea that was invented by a Jesuit. All these "Christian" concepts are really anti-Chrsitian. If Antichrist is coming soon, his religion will no doubt be a blend of Liberal Protestantism and Romanism. Mix it up with Islam and Leftist atheism and he'll have quite the gigantic totalitarian brew to rule the world with. The religious element of the Left is in those tones of moral indignation in just about every post by a Leftist here, that tire a person out. Anything a conservative says can be subjected to moral excoriation, the righteous fury, the sense of absolute rightness of their cause. You don't have to read far to find that huffing-puffing indignation in just about any post in answer to me. They define all opposition or contrary thinking as a tool of the devil according to their system, the devil in their scheme just being whatever they think is wrong. It's a perversion of the spirit of Christ but never mind that, the comparison as Horowitz intends it is quite apt and accounts for the characteristic moral haughtiness of the Left. In reality it's the invention of Satan himself designed to destroy all opposition (no, Horowitz didn't say that) and because it has moral indignation as its power it's very effective. They would destroy all genuine goodness out of their self-righteous zeal for their own ersatz "goodness." Horowitz's description of this, without my elaboration of course, is in the first ten minutes of the talk, plus the truth about Sessions, who is a recent victim of the pious Leftist plots against a blameless man:
the video is on this page * Fake news is one of the strategies of the Left, Marxism-inspired "protests" are another. This is far from normal political disagreement, this is all-out war of one ideology against another and it's totally against American Constitutional principles. Here's another example of the warfare: a Frontpage story on Soros' strategy against town hall meetings: A radical group linked to rogue billionaire George Soros has been providing scripts containing anti-Trump talking points for constituents to read aloud during congressional town hall meetings. One of the scripts distributed by the Revolutionary Love Project encourages town hall participants meeting with their member of Congress to accuse the Trump administration of — wait for it — xenophobia, racism, and Islamophobia. Constituents are urged to use those precise words to forcefully condemn President Trump’s immigration and border security initiatives, Aaron Klein reports at Breitbart News. Information about the scripts came as leaked audio from anti-Trump activists associated with the group Indivisible surfaced. Their target was a town hall hosted by Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.). They planned to deploy an inside team to occupy as many seats as possible and an outside team to give [the media] the coverage they want. Activists were urged to dress like conservatives and avoid any signifier that you’re a liberal so they could dominate the meeting. Phat recently asked why the Left is bad and the Right good. Well, without saying the Right is good, which no group of people can be, the Left is clearly bad because it uses underhanded totalitarian tactics against its opponents, and its goal is power; it has no respect for democracy or freedom of speech except their own, and they consider themselves morally superior to the point that they allow no right for the other side even to exist. ==========================
* Decided to include the entire Horowitz talk, which I just now finished listening to. Few here will want to hear it all the way through, I suppose but it's here if anyone does. He covers all the important points, spells out Political Correctness, the whole mentality of the Left. I'd love to think he could change some minds here of course, but that's rather too optimistic. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There are no Rightist violent protests, there are no Rightist plots to shut up opponents, There is nothing totalitarian at all about today's right. We oppose globalism, which is a totalitarianism. Fake news is not mere criticism of the government and its nuts to think so, it's a tool to destroy all opposition, as are all the other tools I've mentioned. Destruction, annihilation, character assassination, perhaps even physical assassination since people keep advocating it, these are the tools of the Left and fake news is right in line with them. This isn't criticism, this is totalitarian war.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The whole "fake news" is a gambit intended to shut up opponents. No, it's not. It's a DEFENSIVE move against the fake news plots on the Left that threaten to shut down all conservative internet sources. The right didn't invent the concept of fake news, it's a Marxist invention designed to shut up opposition, which has characterized every Communist regime that has ever existed. We want to stop the lies, we're not threatening to shut down the media altogether. If they don't stop lying we'll keep calling them out on it and get our information elsewhere, but we don't threaten to shut them up.
There are rightist assassinations and bombings. A Labour MP was assassinated only last year. Of course there are rightist assassinations, but there is nothing going on from the right like the social media calls for Trump's assassination which are ongoing, and all the violent "protests" are on the Left.
And, of course, Trump supporters are implicated in the violence at Trump,rallies with Trump himself providing encouragement. This is absolutely false. All the violence is provoked by Leftist infiltrators, just as it is at the Town Hall meetings. Trump supported defensive moves against it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Even those voices seem like isolated loonies compared with the stuff in tweets and coming out of Hollywood in favor of assassinating Trump. But say it's equivalent, all that's going on now is threats against Trump.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No it's not a lack of intellectual answers by the right against the Left, it's that the Left has all the emotion-laden slogans aimed at character assassination. It's a difference of method that Horowitz rightly describes as the violence of Godzilla against the Bambi weakness of the merely intellectual stance of the Right. The Right is geared to discussion, the Left to annihilating their enemies. As Horowitz pointed out, Trump showed himself in the campaign to be a "brawler" which is a new thing on the Right, which Horowitz said he'd been waiting to see for thirty years.
I'm sure there are some racists on the Right, but the vast majority are not and the term in any case is nothing but Political Correctness which is a method of destruction fueled by emotional moral indignation. It's a strategy of war, it's got nothing to do with reality. The Trump movement is above all a movement of patriotism against the America-bashing of the Left, which Obama expressed all the time in his apologies to our enemies and his bowing to Muslim leaders. Finally we have a President who loves America as we do. A President who wants to see prosperity return after Obama's selling us out to our enemies economically too, in unfair trade deals. The proof of the pudding is in the amazing growth in the stock market/Wall Street or whatever the right economic term is -- I don't understand money I'm afraid but those who do point out that we're already reaping economic growth through Trump's Presidency. Wish you were right that Black Lives Matter is a legitimate protest. I think they have legitimate causes but I also think they have chosen the wrong way to seek redress for those causes. The movement itself is unfortunately racist, at least on the part of some of the leaders and participants, so your argument that "All Lives Matter" is racist is bogus.; another piece of Leftist race-baiting, or racism itself. I don't know about the Indian movement in the sixties, but I do know that the Black Panthers were a band of murdering thugs and your sister's MIL is right about that. Their race is irrelevant. It's the Left that is racist, always making a big deal out of the irrelevance of race. The problem is the murdering thuggery. Why can't leftists THINK? This complaint about the right being against LGBTQ is also spurious. Trump came out in support of them but they go on as if he hadn't. And there are problems with some of the LGBTQ demands such as the bathroom flap, that need to be addressed. You can't make little girls feel comfortable or safe in a bathroom where men/boys are allowed. You need to admit that other solutions are needed, you can't just make everybody bow to the supposed needs of a tiny minority group when it does cause distress and problems for the majority, and especially for children in the schools. And I'm not even mentioning the attack on Christian businesses. Forcing people to accept your morality is what YOU are doing. All you have to do is take your business elsewhere, nobody's forcing you to use a Christian business or agree with them. And of course you descend to the stupidity of accusing Trump of identifying ALL ililegal aliens as criminal. Why can't you THINK? He said he wanted to deport the criminals among them. And again, you turn it into a race issue when it's a matter of law, legality, right and wrong. Only the Left makes such things into racism, which makes the Left itself the racist influence. The nation has become racially divided in a way it never was before Obama's racist administration. this is the Left's doing, not the right's. The iillegal immigration problem is not about race, it's about law; the Muslim refugee problem is not about race, it's about national security. You're the racist. Yes, concerns about law and national security are pretty pale in comparison to being able to hurl character assassinating epithets like racism. The right is too civilized for such evil tactics. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It might help if you listened to Horowitz's speech.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Use your head. I identified one problem, you identified another. I did not support any particular solution. How about suggesting a reasonable solution?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Where did I say "abomination?" I have wondered if demon influence or possession may be behind some of the stranger things people experience. There is nothing crazy about that idea. I also think it's probably behind some forms of mental illness. It's something to think about, not something to get all offended about.
When little girls would rather wet their pants than go into a bathroom with boys you are in the wrong to force it on them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It isn't a fear of something happening we're talking about, it's a social situation no child should be forced to experience, and their anxiety about it is natural, not something to be educated out of. COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The New Testament doesn't apply to nations. I don't know how many times I have to say this before somebody might at least remember that I said it, instead of starting all over from scratch with the same old stupid questions every time. Christians love God's law, and the political issues we are dealing with are all about law. Jesus addresses individuals, not nations, and He saves us from the Law, but the Law doesn't stop applying to nations just because individuals are saved from it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh for crying out loud. The sexes are different from each other. Wow, what a concept. Races are all human beings, male and female. Duh. It's natural and it's civilized to separate the sexes in bathrooms. Duh.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There's no way for me to have lost such an argument with an idiot atheist Leftist.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The term in the Bible, not my term then. When you say I called it an abomination it of course implied that I called it an abomination. I was pondering what it meant that the Bible did, as of course you know, Mod.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What I want is an admission that the LGBTQ agenda to change bathroom use has serious problems that need to be addressed.
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