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Dr Adequate
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Message 46 of 960 (801275)
03-04-2017 5:54 PM
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03-04-2017 5:51 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact.
Anxiety over sharing a bathroom with someone with a different number of X chromosomes is a socially determined attitude.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 47 of 960 (801276)
03-04-2017 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Faith
03-04-2017 5:51 PM


There's no way for me to have lost such an argument with an idiot atheist Leftist.
An interesting hypothesis, but as you often lose arguments with me, either it is false or I am not an idiot.

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Modulous
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Message 48 of 960 (801277)
03-04-2017 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Faith
03-04-2017 5:22 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Where did I say "abomination?"
Seriously?
Message 91
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homosexuality is still the only sexual sin singled out by the term abomination.
Message 100
quote:
I said, quite clearly I think, that AMONG the sexual sins ONLY homosexuality is specifically called an abomination.
Message 83
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homosexuality is the only personal sin called an abomination.
When little girls would rather wet their pants than go into a bathroom with boys you are in the wrong to force it on them.
What about 'little boys' who would rather wet their pants than go to into a bathroom with boys? Are you wrong to force it on them?
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Message 49 of 960 (801280)
03-04-2017 6:38 PM
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03-04-2017 3:39 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
I listened to Horowitz's speech. It's, sadly, a textbook example of ignoring empirical reality to suit political agenda. Nothing new there, and I was hoping for so much more.
Anyway, now maybe you can explain why:
- You (presumably) think it's okay for American revolutionaries in 1775 and beyond to use violence against the state, but Black Panthers in the 60s are branded as "thugs" for resisting state-sanctioned violence with violence.
- You think it's okay for Trump to launch his entire campaign by painting undocumented immigrants as rapists and criminals, which flies in the face of reality.
- You think that national security is better preserved by banning or instituting "extreme vetting" of Muslim refugees instead of putting in place extreme vetting for all males, regardless of religious identity or national origin. The "national security" argument for barring or limiting Muslim refugees is egregious nonsense because the predominant predictor of violence is the gender of an individual, and not religion or national origin.

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Rrhain
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Message 50 of 960 (801288)
03-04-2017 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
03-04-2017 5:41 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith writes:
quote:
Oh for crying out loud. The sexes are different from each other.
And exactly how is that an issue of going to the bathroom?
Is there something you're trying to tell us, Faith? Are you one of those sexual perverts who looks at the genitalia of other people in the bathroom? Because last time I checked, there were privacy devices in bathrooms to prevent that. You would have to go out of your way to actually see another person's genitalia in a bathroom.
The stalls have doors and walls for a reason.
There are partitions between the urinals for a reason.
So since you seem to have first hand experience of seeing other people's genitalia when in the bathroom, what on earth were you doing? How did you manage to not get arrested?
Remember: More Republican congresscritters have been arrested for sex crimes in bathrooms than transgender people have.
And since you seem to think it's so cut-and-dried, let me ask for your sage advice:
An XY individual with testosterone resistance wants to go to the bathroom. The gonads are differentiated testicles, but they are internal to the body. The external genitalia is of a vagina, but there is no uterus or cervix and the vagina ends blindly because of this. There is some breast growth.
Where does this person go to the bathroom? The person is chromosomally male. Any genetic test would indicate male. But, this person has no external sign of being male.
Oh, wait...I realize I made an assumption: I assumed that you would allow this person to go to a public restroom at all.
This person is now forced to use the women's bathroom:
This 14-year-old is now forced to use the men's bathroom:
Why do you want that little girl in the men's room, Faith?
quote:
It's natural and it's civilized to separate the sexes in bathrooms.
Assuming that, one has to wonder why you want to force women into the men's room.
Remember: A trans woman is a woman. Therefore, she belongs in the women's bathroom.
But you want to forcer her into the men's room.
All because you have an obsession with her genitalia which you seem to be admitting you go out of your way to see when in the bathroom.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Message 51 of 960 (801291)
03-04-2017 9:59 PM
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03-04-2017 6:09 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
The term in the Bible, not my term then. When you say I called it an abomination it of course implied that I called it an abomination. I was pondering what it meant that the Bible did, as of course you know, Mod.
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Message 52 of 960 (801292)
03-04-2017 10:03 PM
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03-04-2017 6:09 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
What I want is an admission that the LGBTQ agenda to change bathroom use has serious problems that need to be addressed.

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Faith 
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Message 53 of 960 (801294)
03-04-2017 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Genomicus
03-04-2017 6:38 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Anyway, now maybe you can explain why:
- You (presumably) think it's okay for American revolutionaries in 1775 and beyond to use violence against the state, but Black Panthers in the 60s are branded as "thugs" for resisting state-sanctioned violence with violence.
Wow, you ARE a Leftie and a half. There was of course no state sanctioned violence. And the American Revolutionaries did no violence whatever in "resisting" the tyranny of Britain, unless you call throwing a lot of tea into the ocean violence. You can't justify Black Panther thuggery, it's criminal, period.
However, you are describing a condition of war. If they are at war with the US, then the US can send troops against them. War isn't "okay," you have to fight it and you might lose. Britain came over to fight us, remember? We luckily won. If the Black Panthers want to declare war and go the same route I think they need a better cause than the one they have, but that's their problem, not mine. Let them declare war and take their chances.
You think it's okay for Trump to launch his entire campaign by painting undocumented immigrants as rapists and criminals, which flies in the face of reality.
What a screaming lie. That is not what he did and you know it.
- You think that national security is better preserved by banning or instituting "extreme vetting" of Muslim refugees instead of putting in place extreme vetting for all males, regardless of religious identity or national origin.
Lies and lunacy both. The problem isn't people, as I've said many times, it's the IDEOLOGY. Islam is the threat to national security. We could welcome in thousands of Arabs if they weren't Muslims, if they were Christians or even atheists, and especially if they are well educated. They would be an asset to the nation, men or women. Like a typical leftie to you everything is about people, like about race, and you project it on everybody else and you can't think about ideas or merit which is what it is really all about. But perhaps you're just very young and recently indoctrinated in the universities.
The "national security" argument for barring or limiting Muslim refugees is egregious nonsense because the predominant predictor of violence is the gender of an individual, and not religion or national origin.
You are some kind of joke. I'm just sorry American universities have turned out such ignorant people.
ABE: What I think is desperately needed in this country is a counter-university system that actually teaches people how to think instead of indoctrinating them in ridiculous political stupidities.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 54 of 960 (801297)
03-04-2017 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Faith
03-04-2017 10:03 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
What I want is an admission that the LGBTQ agenda to change bathroom use has serious problems that need to be addressed.
It has no problems, Faith, and nor is it a change. You think that up until now this guy has been going in the ladies' room like conservatives want him to but now suddenly he's gotten all bolshy and is demanding to go in the gents'?
Other way round, Faith. He has of course been using the gents' all this time, which caused absolutely no "serious problems" to anyone, and now suddenly conservatives are demanding that he should be compelled by law to use the ladies' room, to his distress and quite possibly that of the other patrons.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 55 of 960 (801298)
03-04-2017 11:01 PM
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03-04-2017 10:58 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
There is no problem, as far as I know, if someone can pass for the sex that belongs in the bathroom of choice. Duh. that is not the problem I'm talking about.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 56 of 960 (801299)
03-04-2017 11:04 PM
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03-04-2017 11:01 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
There is no problem, as far as I know, if someone can pass for the sex that belongs in the bathroom of choice.
So, you think the new laws being imposed by conservatives are stupid? Good.
Duh. that is not the problem I'm talking about.
Well, that's the problem your fellow-conservatives are all trying to fix.

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Message 57 of 960 (801300)
03-04-2017 11:05 PM
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03-04-2017 11:04 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
No, there are real problems that need addressing.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 58 of 960 (801302)
03-04-2017 11:11 PM
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03-04-2017 11:05 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
No, there are real problems that need addressing.
Namely? What bad things have happened as a result of the absence of dumb conservative bathroom laws?

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Message 59 of 960 (801303)
03-04-2017 11:12 PM
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03-04-2017 11:11 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
If a person can't get away with using the bathroom of choice and freaks out little kids or other human beings, there is a problem.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 60 of 960 (801304)
03-04-2017 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Faith
03-04-2017 11:12 PM


The Bathroom Police
If a person can't get away with using the bathroom of choice and freaks out little kids or other human beings, there is a problem.
I asked "what bad things have happened" for want of these dumb laws, not "what bad things can you imagine". So, can you point me to an actual problem rather than ifs and buts? Just one instance?
C'mon, when liberals want more gun control, they can point to at least one instance of someone being shot. Maybe even more! And yet that doesn't convince you for some reason. But conservatives want us to adopt rules and regulations which would prevent something of which there are apparently no instances.
Given the obvious disadvantages of such laws, explained upthread, I would be reluctant to impose them to prevent something which has never actually occurred.
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