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Faith 
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Message 243 of 275 (801296)
03-04-2017 10:40 PM
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03-04-2017 9:10 PM


Re: the big picture
Straw man. You obviously haven't been following anything I've said. I've acknowledged the legitimacy of the complaints (Modulous made a good case; I hope I don't regret it); I'm arguing against the method of protest.
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Message 248 of 275 (801374)
03-05-2017 4:22 PM
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03-05-2017 11:04 AM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
Perhaps you are all ignorant of the symbology of sixties style Marxism. "Herstory" is a mild little clue but you never see that phrase in any other but a Marxist feminist context. "Struggle," the "Black Struggle," is a Marxist phrase. "Black Liberation" is a Marxist phrase. The symbol of the raised fist -- which of course suggests violence. The whole thing is wrapped around Marxist rhetoric and symbology.
At the very least it shows the leaders are up on the Marxist frame of reference, use the terminology, and have no doubt absorbed a lot of the doctrine. They also, or at least one of them, has ties to Black Panthers.
Even if I allow that it might be more window-dressing than strict Marxist ideology to some extent, it turns me away from it as a serious movement I could support.

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Faith 
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Message 250 of 275 (801378)
03-05-2017 4:31 PM
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03-05-2017 4:28 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
I read tons of books by Marxists in the sixties, Marxist feminists in particular. This is the rhetoric used by BLM.
Oh, "patriarchy." That's on the site too, another Marxist feminist term.
Oh lots of other books too, Jacoby, cultural Marxism, Frankfurt School, can't remember the author of the big book about that.
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Message 251 of 275 (801380)
03-05-2017 4:35 PM
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03-05-2017 4:28 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
Marxism is a lie, it's a fantasy/theory that never touches reality. It's really a religion. It's designed to create class conflict in the guise of analyzing it. It promotes violence, it rationalizes killing people who disagree with you. It is anti-American, it undermines all the freedoms granted us in America. In the form of Cultural Marxism it specifically aims at the destruction of Western Civilization.; And guess what, it has succeeded to a scary extent.
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Message 254 of 275 (801383)
03-05-2017 4:38 PM
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03-05-2017 4:37 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
It's a lie as they use it and it's a lie designed to destroy culture.
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Message 256 of 275 (801385)
03-05-2017 4:39 PM
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03-05-2017 4:38 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
I've said what I wanted to say.

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Faith 
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Message 257 of 275 (801387)
03-05-2017 4:55 PM
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03-05-2017 4:39 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
BLM's Marxist terminology is Sixties Cultural Marxism, Marxism aimed against Western Civilization, "Critical Theory" which is nothing but an excuse for destructive rhetoric against everything good and solid in American culture.; It is a false narrative of oppressed classes, it turns injustices into a whole theory of class oppression which justifies defining a hated enemy, such as the white race in the case of blacks, such as men in the case of feminists. Anybody remember "the Society for Cutting Up Men" from the sixties? The rhetoric of Hate Whitey is in the BLM site. Marxism is a huge evil. Maybe even a bit like Islam since it focuses on hated enemies defined as the problem to be done away with.

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Faith 
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Message 265 of 275 (801468)
03-06-2017 1:50 PM
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03-05-2017 5:20 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
Critical Race Theory is used to de-construct and critique the systematic and institutionalized racism prevalent in America's legislative and other structures. Do you consider systematic racism part of "everything good and solid in American culture"?
It's been fascinating to find out that you are a true Marxist yourself, I mean totally Marxified. "Critical Race Theory" yet. "De-construct" yet. I recognize those terms as Marxist along with the others I've been discussing here, but obviously nobody else does. (Do you know what "de-construct" really means? It means you feel free to trash other people's thoughts and substitute your own, your own of course being today's Marxist party line.) There is no systematic and institutionalized racism in America, that's just one of the Marxist "theories" that is a lie designed to destroy the best political system ever devised for the good of humanity.
We're in really bad shape if you're representative of what the universities are turning out these days.
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Faith 
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Message 267 of 275 (801474)
03-06-2017 2:19 PM
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03-06-2017 2:00 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
Have you read Foucault, Derrida? I'm talking about the latest Marxists, who use Marx theories for completely new purposes. Have you read Marcuse, Adorno, Derek Jacoby?

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Faith 
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Message 269 of 275 (801477)
03-06-2017 2:26 PM
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03-06-2017 2:25 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
I know you want to change the subject. I'm talking about modern Marxism whether you like it or not. Ever read Juliet Mitchell or any of the other Marxist feminists? PC comes out of all that stuff whether you like it or not. The terminology anhd symbology I've been talking about comes out of it.
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Faith 
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Message 271 of 275 (801482)
03-06-2017 2:46 PM
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03-06-2017 2:35 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
The terminology I identified on the BLM site and in Genomicus' post is Marxist whether you like it or not.

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Faith 
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Message 273 of 275 (801499)
03-06-2017 4:20 PM
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03-06-2017 2:50 PM


Re: the real picture (BLM)
You know nothing of Marxism and nothing of Christ either.
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