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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
Faith 
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Message 121 of 960 (801419)
03-06-2017 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by PaulK
03-06-2017 3:36 AM


Re: Political Correctness
But the meaning of "political correctness" HAS been changed. HBD is entirely right about the way the term was used when it first became popular.
That silly brain-shriveling excuse for an idea of PC is properly understand as totalitarian thought control. You have to know something about Cultural Marxism and how it works to be set free from such a silly mind-numbing idea.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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PaulK
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Message 122 of 960 (801420)
03-06-2017 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
03-06-2017 3:42 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Nonsense. There is no reason to believe that common usage was dictated by a Marxist conspiracy - and no way to say that the common usage was wrong.
As for the abuse - that is just a typical tactic of the totalitarian Right which you so eagerly support.

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Faith 
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Message 123 of 960 (801421)
03-06-2017 4:04 AM
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03-06-2017 3:42 AM


Political Correctness has consequences
It would be a mistake to leave it at a definition of its function as thought control, which can happen because that very idea keeps being attacked, but the real problem with PC is its political consequences. It cloaks the globalist agenda of open borders for instance, which threatens the security of all sovereign nations. If to complain about illegal immigration is to be a racist and a xenophobe that means efforts to protect the border and national security are stifled. It justifies the utter evil of "sanctuary cities" as islands of anti-American ideology that work to undermine the stability of the nation. Any bad choice of words is pounced on to make us racists and bigots and discredit the important point about threat to national security.
If we can't talk about the dangers of Islam as an ideology without being shouted down as racists and bigots the nation is left open to people who carry an ideology that will ultimately destroy us. When Trump's "immigration ban" was blocked by the courts, Obama brought in a bunch of "refugees," because he wants the country to be destroyed, always has, that was his agenda from the beginning. It's all OK with those who want to destroy us, the globalists for instance, but most of the Left are just dupes who can't think past their emotion-driven idea that we have to be nice to "refugees." No matter if they are a brood of vipers waiting until there are enough of them to take over the country.
It's "sexist" to be against abortion, too, since murder is understood to be a woman's "right" in this craziest of upside-down leftist-run worlds.
We're "homophobes" if we object to gay marriage on the basis of the Bible, which leaves Christians vulnerable to legal measures that can destroy their businesses.
Political Correctness has political consequences that serve the Leftist agenda. That's its point.
And so on and so forth.

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Faith 
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Message 124 of 960 (801422)
03-06-2017 4:05 AM
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03-06-2017 4:01 AM


Re: Political Correctness
There is nothing "totalitarian" about the right. Trump wants freedom for all. The Left wants us all dead who don't toe their line.

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Message 125 of 960 (801423)
03-06-2017 4:14 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
03-06-2017 4:05 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Sure, Trump is picking a fight with the media because they won't act as his propaganda arm. He tried picking a fight with the courts because they won't let him ignore the Constitution - and that's just Trump! And there seem to be many people supporting him in these fights.
And then we see this vicious demonisation of the Left which certainly looks like a pretext for suppression.
The totalitarian Right is a reality, and a real threat to freedom.

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Rrhain
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Message 126 of 960 (801424)
03-06-2017 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Faith
03-04-2017 10:03 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith writes:
quote:
What I want is an admission that the LGBTQ agenda to change bathroom use has serious problems that need to be addressed.
That would be a lie, Faith, and we mustn't tell lies.
On two levels:
1) There is no "agenda to change bathroom use." Men use the men's room. Women use the women's room.
See, I want this person to use the men's room:
You, however, what him to use the women's room. Why do you want that man in the women's room, Faith?
I want this 14-year-old to use the women's room:
You, however, what her to use the men's room. Why do you want that little girl in the men's room, Faith?
2) There is no problem. Your sick, perverted desire to see the genitalia of other people who are simply trying to use the bathroom is not going to be accommodated no matter how much you beg.
That, however, is something that needs to be addressed: Why are you fixated on the genitalia of other people, Faith? Why do you think you get to look at other people's genitalia when they're in the bathroom? That you're nervous is not a reason.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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Message 127 of 960 (801425)
03-06-2017 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Faith
03-04-2017 10:19 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith writes:
quote:
What a screaming lie. That is not what he did and you know it.
What a screaming lie. That is precisely what he did and you know it.
We have him on tape, Faith. Wait...you're about to claim that this video was hacked, right? That he didn't really say the things he said?
Trump's very first campaign speech was to call Mexicans rapists and drug dealers.
And that flies in the face of reality.
quote:
The problem isn't people, as I've said many times, it's the IDEOLOGY.
And the ideology of white, Christian males is bloody, violent, and bigoted. It's why the most common terrorist in the United States is a conservative, white, Christian male.
Your IDEOLOGY is what radicalizes them into shooting up Jewish centers, planting bombs at the Olympics, blowing up buildings, assassinating doctors who perform abortion, etc.
Like a typical fool, to you everything is about the other, like about race, and you project your paranoia on everybody else and you can't think about ideas or merit that differs from your own, which is what it is really all about. But, perhaps you're just very stupid and never received any education in the universities...or anywhere else.
You are the problem, Faith.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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Message 128 of 960 (801426)
03-06-2017 5:58 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Faith
03-04-2017 11:01 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith writes:
quote:
There is no problem, as far as I know, if someone can pass for the sex that belongs in the bathroom of choice. Duh.
Who determines what "passes," Faith?
Because of the laws that have been created, cis-women have been subject to harassment and arrest for using the women's room.
We've been through this already, Faith. You know the drill. Here's the response I gave you the last time you brought it up (Message 34):
why do you need a law to give them permission to use the restroom of their choice?
Because all it takes is for some busybody to cause trouble and suddenly you're being arrested. This is already happening to cis women who have butch haircuts and don't wear traditionally feminine clothing.
If we don't explicitly protect trans people, they will be subject to discrimination. It would be lovely if we could all just behave like adults and not harass our fellows, but the simple reality is that there will always be people who want to make life difficult for those they don't like.
No, laws won't stop all the problems. We have laws preventing discrimination on the basis of things like race, gender, and religion, and yet those who aren't white, those who aren't male, and those who aren't Christian still get discriminated against. The laws simply allow there to be redress for when it happens (and yes, that means white, male Christians can be discriminated against and also have a means of redress when it happens.)
Now, you're going to say you didn't see it. And since you didn't reply, I'm sure you think you didn't see it. But that simply means that, once again, you didn't do your homework and got burned.
Women are being harassed and subject to arrest for using the women's room, Faith, because fools like you seem to think you can determine who "passes" and who doesn't.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Message 129 of 960 (801427)
03-06-2017 6:00 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
03-05-2017 12:35 AM


Re: The Bathroom Police
Faith writes:
quote:
The mother reported it on some website I saw. It's not imaginary.
Given the web sites you claim to visit, that is proof positive that it's imaginary.
Names, Faith, or it didn't happen.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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jar
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Message 130 of 960 (801429)
03-06-2017 6:23 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Faith
03-06-2017 1:27 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith writes:
That's what Communism does, it controls people in every possible way. Political Correctness tells them what they MUST Think if they are not to run afoul of the Powers, get thrown in prison or executed or whatnot. Mao arguably wins the prize for the number of his own people he executed. Political Correctness was his way of saying what they had to do to avoid it.
No Faith, that is not what communism does, that is what totalitarian states and what state religions do. That is what Christianity did until just recently. That is what Trump's minion said Trump would do.
quote:
MILLER: Well, I think that it's been an important reminder to all Americans that we have a judiciary that has taken far too much power and become, in many cases, a supreme branch of government. One unelected judge in Seattle cannot remake laws for the entire country. I mean this is just crazy, John, the idea that you have a judge in Seattle say that a foreign national living in Libya has an effective right to enter the United States is -- is -- is beyond anything we've ever seen before.
The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.
From Steven Miller's Face The Nation interview last Sunday.
Plus of course he committed the sin of omission in his statement as well.

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Message 131 of 960 (801436)
03-06-2017 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
03-06-2017 4:05 AM


Re: Political Correctness
The Left wants us all dead who don't toe their line.
Show this to a doctor.

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Message 132 of 960 (801438)
03-06-2017 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
03-06-2017 3:42 AM


Re: Political Correctness
That silly brain-shriveling excuse for an idea of PC is properly understand as totalitarian thought control. You have to know something about Cultural Marxism and how it works to be set free from such a silly mind-numbing idea.
"Cultural Marxism" is the paranoid fantasy of a lunatic.

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Message 133 of 960 (801442)
03-06-2017 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
03-06-2017 3:42 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Faith writes:
That silly brain-shriveling excuse for an idea of PC is properly understand as totalitarian thought control.
This is an example of rightest PC thinking.
You have to know something about Cultural Marxism and how it works to be set free from such a silly mind-numbing idea.
You don't have to know anything except that discrimination because of differentness is wrong.
--Percy

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Message 134 of 960 (801443)
03-06-2017 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by Percy
03-06-2017 9:20 AM


Re: Political Correctness
A wise seeker will read news from both political extremes as well as moderates and make their own conclusions. Only sheep blindly follow news that they have been told to be trustworthy.
We all have our calling and purpose in life. Keep in mind that God allowed bad kings as well as good kings to fulfill His purpose for the people.
Faith and I disagree whether Donald Trump is a good king or a bad one---I have yet to see evidence refuting my belief...but it is certainly possible.
Trump has to do more than make America prosperous. There is much work to be done in regards to trust in government and communication with the people.
I always said that the next great war will be a war of information, data, and ideas.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
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~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
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Message 135 of 960 (801444)
03-06-2017 9:40 AM
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03-06-2017 9:28 AM


Re: Political Correctness
Phat writes:
Trump has to do more than make America prosperous.
What does that mean? America is and has been prosperous for several hundred years with very few periods when that could even be challenged.
So how could anyone tell if Trump is making a positive difference?

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