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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Something can be literally true and due to context and intent or selective focus be fake. You mean like quote mining? Where a quote is taken out of context and used to mean something different than the original intent? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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So, no response to the fact that Hoft published obviously fake news? It's OK If You're A Republican?
Oh, have you figured out that "liberal"and "libertarian" are opposite ends of the spectrum? Of course contact with Russia is not in itself a problem. Doing so in inappropriate (and possibly illegal) circumstances and/or lying about it is. Personally, I don't know if there really is a Russian problem in the Trump administration. But there is enough indication of a problem to warrant an investigation , and IMHO Sessions should appoint a special prosecutor because the fact that he's the boss of the Justice Department taints the entire department. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?
An unrelated image of Keith Ellison and Debbie Wasserman Schultz was apparently used to claim Democrats refused to honor a Navy SEAL's widow during a presidential speech. quote: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
No. In any mind. Only in the minds of leftists. Trump calls the news "fake" when much of the "information" he spouts is fake. He tells blatant falsehoods, like he had the biggest electoral college win since Reagan. Either he lies or he just doesn't bother to check his facts. In cases like yours, it doesn't matter which because you don't care about the truth. You'll swallow any lie he tells and any fake "information" that he spews.
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Aussie Member Posts: 275 From: FL USA Joined:
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Bottom line: There's no evidence of his DOING any of it, it's all talk. We can tell truth has become entirely unnecessary to you when an actual confession is dismissed off-handedly as not being evidence. SO SAD! "...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"
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Percy Member Posts: 22500 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
This morning Trump tweeted that "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield." Just one problem: most of those former Gitmo prisoners were released by George W. Bush. Read all about it: Trump hits Obama again, this time with false claims about Gitmo detainees
Probably Trump read something misleading at Breitbart again and then put fingers in gear without thinking or checking. One has to wonder how many of his opinions are based upon false beliefs. --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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The actual data
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Probably Trump read something misleading at Breitbart again and then put fingers in gear without thinking or checking.
According to this report
Trump’s split screen: A two-hour virtual conversation between the president and ‘Fox & Friends’, Trump was watching the FOX network. And they mentioned the 122 released who returned to the battlefield. They were apparently quite clear that 113 of those had been released by Bush. And that report set Trump off into tweeting that Obama did it. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Phat Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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I'm now convinced that Trump does this stuff on purpose. He deliberately skews the news because he knows his followers don't believe the news anyway. He also attempts to incite the media into a response....which further leads credence to the conspiracy theory.
I believe there is a definite strategy behind all this....I'm just not sure it's the best approach. Add by edit: Trump has advisors who are manipulating all of this. We are slow to realize that the entire power structure and agenda has turned on its head. I just worry how he would respond should an important global crises arise. What's the man really made of? Are his perspectives in line with reality? Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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Phat Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Percy writes: I believe that the whole strategy of the new administration is to denounce the media as biased and then spin their own version....letting the people discriminate as to what is real. ... One has to wonder how many of his opinions are based upon false beliefs. If the media is the message, Trump is attempting to take the media away from its former owners and own it himself...via press coverage and twitter. He is taking a leaf from reality TV. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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If the media is the message, The media is not the message. The media is the thing that the message is delivered on. Mainstream media in the US is bullshit, we should all turn it off.
Trump is attempting to take the media away from its former owners and own it himself...via press coverage and twitter. He is taking a leaf from reality TV. He is bypassing the media and providing a message directly to the people.
I believe that the whole strategy of the new administration is to denounce the media as biased and then spin their own version....letting the people discriminate as to what is real. Given that our media is basically trying to tell us what our opinions should be, I welcome letting the people directly digest the message and form their own opinions. The media can still take the message and spin it and try to form opinions for us, but having the direct source just provides the people another option. Unfortunately, people will have to take personal responsibility for their own critical thinking - and many just don't have the desire to do that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So many good videos on the danger of Islam. Here's another. If you don't want to watch much just two or three or four minutes ought to get it across.
/ / / / / / This one starts out with one minute showing Muslims destroying Christmas trees in shopping areas. / / / I suppose I'll be amazed again at how nobody here will accept this as evidence, -- just isolated instances involving a few or something like that? even if there are hundreds of such videos about different events -- and attack me as the one at fault, Godzilla excoriating me as if I were the most evil person on earth for showing how dangerous Islam is. Well, I'm no bambi I'm sure, or if I am I'm a bambi with teeth, but Horowitz was so right about how the Left attacks people with scathing hellfire and brimstone denunciations. Not the violent ones, the ones who are trying to expose the violent ones. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are right. That is evidence of absolutely nothing except the existence of videos, a fact we are all aware of.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Yup, they're definately more videos.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1052 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
This one starts out with one minute showing Muslims destroying Christmas trees in shopping areas. No it doesn't. It starts with some guys pushing a car down an escalator. Then it shows someone in a hoodie setting fire to a Christmas tree. Then it shows a woman in a headscarf throwing something at a Christmas tree (is it a ball? A piece of fruit? Couldn't tell). So one Christmas tree destroyed. I didn't watch with sound, but a quick bit of reading around uncovered that this was in Brussels and the lads are supposed to have shouted Allahu Akbar, so these were probably Muslims. This happend in 2015. I found two accounts of Christmas trees being set fire to in Europe during Christmas in 2016*. One was by anarchists in Greece and one by a drunk, mentally disturbed English guy. Didn't mention his religion, but 'Ramsay' is not a very Muslim sounding name. *Actually I found more - but only two on purpose.
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