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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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ICE is acting under the memos issued by the Trump administration. See, e.g., here.
We've already seen the detrimental impact these new policies are having on undocumented communities; e.g., Daniela Vargas (a DACA recipient) has been detained by ICE after speaking at a news conference about the new administration. So, yeah. Fuck ICE.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
Also, if tweets are arranged these days so that the negative ones of Trump come to the top... They aren't. Twitter's algorithm doesn't deliberately put negative tweets of Trump on top. It's all based on the number of likes, re-tweets, etc., so if a pro-Trump tweet got a ton of re-tweets, then it'd go on top too.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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Why is something he said in private and would never say in public, a "locker room" comment that lots of men might say in private... Geez, what kind of men do you hang around? Most respectable men don't boast about sexual assault, in locker rooms or otherwise.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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...about media jumping on a private remark. And rightfully so. I certainly want to know if a candidate for the highest office in the land boasts about sexual assault, and whether that remark is said in private or public is wholly irrelevant.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
There was no "sexual assault"... I said "boasting about sexual assault," not actual sexual assault. If you don't consider his remarks boasting about sexual assault, then we clearly have different standards for what constitutes sexual assault.
...and by the way Clinton did physically assault many women. Did that turn you against him? I was in elementary school when Clinton was POTUS, so I wasn't exactly capable of formulating a concise political opinion at the time. That being said, I am absolutely no fan of Clinton. I'm more of a strident progressive than a DNC traditionalist.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
"Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
- "I don't even wait" is the language and phrasing of a sexual predator. - "They let you do it" is not the same thing as "They want me to do it."
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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Sure, and joking about sexual assault isn't something the media should bring up about a presidential candidate...
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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So many good videos on the danger of right-wing Christianity. If you don't want to watch much, just two minutes and seventeen seconds should be enough to get it across.
This one shows violent right-wing Christians in Serbia disrupting a gay pride parade with rocks and bricks and smoke bombs. I suppose I'll be amazed again at how Faith won't accept this as evidence -- just isolated instances involving a few or something like that? Even if there are hundreds of such videos about different events -- and attack me as the one at fault...Godzilla excoriating me as if I were the most evil person on earth for showing how dangerous right-wing Christianity is.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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And it's part of the same mindlessness to claim equivalence where there is none; just as predictable. You're right; there is no equivalence. Muslims climbing Christmas trees isn't as much of a threat to people as right-wing Christians throwing rocks and smoke bombs during a gay pride march.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
There are videos of Muslim problems coming out of all of them. I understand all of it is denied of course. There are videos of right-wing Christian problems coming out of all of them, too. I understand all of it is denied by you, of course. Look, Faith. This is a debate site. And reasonable, sharp-thinking people don't carry out debates with videos. Videos can be used as an auxiliary aid to demonstrate an overall concept (as Modulous did recently), but they aren't sufficient lines of evidence to demonstrate that there is a "Muslim Problem" in Europe or elsewhere. So. Get to work. Dig up that evidence.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
Donald Trump should you recruit you for his propaganda arm. Your boi Ralph Sidway @ JihadWatch is cherry-picking data -- and unsurprisingly, you fell for it.
Perhaps the most important statistic which stands out comes from the United Nations itself, which reports that 75% of the migrants are young, fit males. Nope. Your propagandist Ralph Sidway links to a UNHCR page which breaks down the demographics of sea arrivals across the Mediterranean; a total of 362,376 refugees arrived across the Mediterranean Sea in 2016; of these, 57.7% of these were men, and only a fraction are combat age. And we all know from elementary school that 57.7% is not 75% (perhaps Ralph is dyslexic, so we can excuse him on that point). Further, when we look to a more complete, larger data set -- the total number of Syrian refugees -- we find that 51.5% are male and 48.5% are female, a pretty even split.
Long long list of headlines at bottom of the article, I'm copying out only maybe a quarter of them. They are all links to articles. You seem to have been reduced to just a link-churning machine, instead of an analytical individual capable of original and independent thinking. Clickbait headlines don't mean a thing; what we need is actual evidence (statistically validated) that OMG-Europe-is-collapsing-because-of-Muslims-climbing-Christmas-trees. Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
I've followed Jihad Watch for years and I'll trust them over you any day, especially since video after video after video shows hordes of young men in various European countries without a single woman or child in sight. True or False: the very link that Ralph Sidway used to support his position (UNHCR) contradicted his assertion that 75% of arrivals are male.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
I doubt there are Christian rightwing problems but show me if you want. I already showed you: that video of a violent mob of right-wing Christians disrupting a peaceful gay pride event with rocks and bricks. That's evidence that Europe is getting crushed -- absolutely crushed -- by an internal invasion of radical right-wing Christians.
The other one still looks like an attack on the tree to me, they are pulling things off it. That's how you take decorations off a tree in a post-Christmas celebration: you pull things off. Go to the Snopes article. See the first image there. You'll find at least one of the individuals in the crowd wearing a Christmas hat (Santa hat). Then, if you still think your propaganda boys are right -- that this is happening in Europe, instead of Cairo -- I'm sure you'll be able to dig up the original video to prove this point. Right? Just kidding. You're not willing to put in that kind of work to determine if you're being fed propaganda.
The first video of the Chrismas tree was apparently quite true, the burning of the tree in Bruseels after they pushed a car down what, an escalator, and they were Muslims, but that one doesn't interest you for some reason. I'm not interested in a hastily-put-together YouTube video that uses unsourced clips shown to be irrelevant (e.g., from Cairo). That's propaganda. If I used that kind of sloppy approach in academic research, people would be like "LOL you're not serious are you??"
Ridiculous, it's perfectly obvious there is a huge Muslim problem in Europe, but oh well. If it's "perfectly obvious" you should be able to do better than linking to weird YouTube videos and clickbait headlines. Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
The only link you could be talking about goes to a page of data from a year later than his article. Apparently the first link is buried or lost. Luckily, there's the Wayback Machine, which archives deleted or unindexed pages. See here: Refugees/Migrants Emergency Response - Mediterranean - Regional Overview Look at all the documents on demographic data, specifically related to gender break downs. This is from April 4, 2016, and prior to that date. None of them suggest that 75% of the refugees are male. Your friends at JihadWatch don't know how to research.
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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You've got ONE event of "Christians" (It isn't only Christians who have a problem with gay parades) - ONE example, in Serbia, and you inflate that to Europe being "absolutely crushed" by rightwing Christians? Golly gosh what absolutely convincing scientifically exacting evidence you have. And the light bulb turns on.
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