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Author Topic:   Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response
jar
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Message 746 of 993 (801207)
03-04-2017 6:32 AM


Trumps kinder immigration policy gets improved.
According to a report from the Reuters News Service the Department of Homeland Security is planning an all new improved border control policy. Women caught crossing the border with children will be separated, the mother held in detention and the children placed in custody of the Department of Health & Human Services.
quote:
The Department of Homeland Security is considering a proposal to separate immigrant mothers and their children who are caught together crossing the US border illegally.
The proposal would be a stark change from current practice, which allows families that are fighting deportation to be released and remain together until their cases are resolved.
The proposed policy, first reported Friday by Reuters, would allow border officials to detain and hold parents in custody while their children are placed into the protective custody of the Department of Health and Human Services.
source
Thanks Trump, have you ever read the US Constitution?

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jar
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Message 747 of 993 (801509)
03-06-2017 8:31 PM


And now it looks like travel bans extend to US Citizens.
This is really disgusting.
From tonight's Reuters' feed:
The father of a US Soldier who was criticized by then candidate Trump for being a Muslim who spoke out against the racism and bigotry of Trump but who is a US Citizen himself has been notified that his US travel privileges were under review.
He has not been told why or what agency is pulling such a stupid stunt.
quote:
The father of an American soldier killed in Iraq who came under criticism last year from then-candidate Donald Trump said he has canceled a speaking engagement in Toronto after being notified that his U.S. travel privileges were under review.
Khizr Khan, an American citizen born in Pakistan, said he had not been given a reason as to why his travel privileges were being reviewed. He did not say what kind of review he was subject to, which U.S. agency ordered it or who told him of the change.
"This turn of events is not just of deep concern to me but to all my fellow Americans who cherish our freedom to travel abroad," Khan said in a statement issued by the engagement organizer on Monday. "I am grateful for your support and look forward to visiting Toronto in the near future."
quote:
Khan and his wife, Ghazala Khan, appeared at the Democratic National Convention in support of presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and shared the story of their son, U.S. Army Captain Humayun Khan, who was killed during the Iraq war.
He also criticized Trump's proposal during the election campaign for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.
During his speech, Khan asked Trump if he had ever read the U.S. Constitution and said that he would gladly lend him his copy. He urged Trump to "look for the words liberty and equal protection of law" in the document.
Trump responded by questioning whether Clinton's aides scripted Khan's speech and questioned whether Ghazala Khan was allowed to speak.
Just another example of the pettiness, racism, ignorance and just plain piss poor manners of Donald Trump.

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jar
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Message 749 of 993 (801516)
03-07-2017 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 748 by Pressie
03-07-2017 5:57 AM


Re: And now it looks like travel bans extend to US Citizens.
Pressie writes:
Is travelling a privilege now under Trump? I mean, US citizens have always had the right to leave the US if they wanted to. It's a right.
The issue is not so much leaving as whether you would be allowed back in.

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jar
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Message 751 of 993 (801525)
03-07-2017 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 750 by Pressie
03-07-2017 8:18 AM


Re: And now it looks like travel bans extend to US Citizens.
Pressie writes:
Nope. It's the right of US citizens to leave and re-enter the US. That's not a privilege. It's a right.
That is what will be tested. Remember that right now the US has a neutral Supreme Court but it will be the Republicans that will determine the makeup in the near future.
It is that court that will decide what is a right and what is a privilege and the decision may not be based on morality or reason or logic but rather what is the then current US Federal law.

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jar
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Message 755 of 993 (801801)
03-09-2017 5:18 PM


It looks like five States will now sue
So far it appears that Hawaii and Washington as well as New York, Massachusetts and Oregon will be suing to have the All New and Stupider Trump Travel Ban declared Unconstitutional and the Virginia suit on the subject is still in play but only as it effects Virginia residents.
The problem is that a Religious Test by any other name is STILL Unconstitutional and Trump and his Administration have shown their true colors too many times in too many venues.

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jar
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Message 777 of 993 (802017)
03-11-2017 10:04 AM


Looks like TSA is now checking travel within the US.
An article in yesterdays USA Today says that Muhammad Ali Jr was again stopped and questioned by TSA before being allowed to board a plane from DC back to FT Lauderdale after testifying before Congress where he said on Thursday that the government needs to help end racial and religious profiling.
source
When you add that behavior to the purge of all attorneys appointed under the Obama Administration a frightening reminder of the Saturday Night Massacre designed to eliminate any possible opposition as well as again pointing out how petty, childish and immature Trump and all of his sycophants and fellow travelers are.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin appoint --> appointed

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jar
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Message 843 of 993 (809797)
05-21-2017 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 841 by Faith
05-21-2017 9:19 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Even one is too many.
But that is irrelevant; the US Constitution (you may have heard of it) says that if they are in the US they deserve Due Process.
This Administration seems to have no regard whatsoever for the Constitution or Rule of Law.

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jar
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Message 847 of 993 (809801)
05-21-2017 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 846 by Faith
05-21-2017 9:31 AM


Faith, You are the one who is advocating violating American law.
Faith writes:
Why are you supporting violations of American law?
Too funny Faith.
Only you and the Trump Administration are advocating violating American Law.

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jar
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Message 851 of 993 (809805)
05-21-2017 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 850 by PaulK
05-21-2017 9:45 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I never quite understood why Ronald Reagan was not impeached and then tried as a traitor to the US simply for his collaboration with Iran to delay the hostage releases and the Iran-Contra affair.
But remember we survived even the Reagan Administration and this Administration too shall pass.

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jar
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Message 854 of 993 (809816)
05-21-2017 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 853 by Faith
05-21-2017 10:45 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
What id Faith?
What id do you have that shows you are in the US legally?

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jar
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Message 857 of 993 (809828)
05-21-2017 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 856 by Faith
05-21-2017 12:05 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
You carry that with you?
And you do know they are pretty easy to fake. Aren't you one of the folk claiming Obama's birth certificate is fake? But yours is real?

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jar
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Message 890 of 993 (810125)
05-23-2017 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 889 by marc9000
05-23-2017 9:30 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Even illegal immigrants pay taxes, hold jobs, raise families, attend schools...
The US Constitution does not say all people in the US legally have a right to due process. It says ALL Persons. Period. No qualifier. All Persons.

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jar
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Message 897 of 993 (811041)
06-04-2017 11:44 AM


And reality intrudes again
The Wall is needed because...
yet the reality is that organizations that were set up to provide shelter to illegal immigrants are all laying off employees and shutting down since there are so few illegal immigrants coming in.
source
So far about a thousand jobs lost.

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jar
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Message 914 of 993 (811102)
06-05-2017 6:40 AM
Reply to: Message 913 by Phat
06-05-2017 6:17 AM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
Phat writes:
The religious people themselves would fight such a law.
No law is needed Phat, simply education and opportunity.

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jar
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Message 939 of 993 (811265)
06-06-2017 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 938 by 1.61803
06-06-2017 12:18 PM


Re: Trump undermines his case(?).
The US survived Ronald Reagan, it's likely the US will survive il Donald.

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