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Faith 
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Message 665 of 710 (801795)
03-09-2017 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 663 by JonF
03-09-2017 4:42 PM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
And again I have to cvorrect the Leftist propaganda since I do not hate "RC's. just the power structure of the RCC which is anti-Christian. And the current Pope is knocking himself out to be obnoxious. Maybe he really will turn out to be the final Antichrist. Maybe there really will be a Rapture, I hope soon if so, and then the Antichrist will be revealed to whoever is left on earth. Gosh what fun you're all going to have when we Christians are out of your hair.

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Message 674 of 710 (801860)
03-10-2017 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 673 by xongsmith
03-09-2017 6:51 PM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
You're not sorry about it at all. Anything to call me a racist -- or genocidal, pure PC, that's what you're doing. The usual Leftist smear tactics. Over and over these days EvC shows itself to be a propaganda organ of the Left and little else.
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Message 676 of 710 (801889)
03-10-2017 6:48 AM
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03-10-2017 6:41 AM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
The truth about islam is not racism, but a Leftist can't be expected to understand enough logic to know that, so it has to keep being repeated ad nauseam. Blech.

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Faith 
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Message 682 of 710 (801996)
03-11-2017 2:45 AM
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03-10-2017 6:42 PM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
How does one "validate" a marriage if you aren't the one performing the sacrament?
You REALLY can't figure out what "validate a gay marriage" means to an individual Christian? Your questions just look like an obscurantist insistence on a pedantic semantic point. Here's the answer:
Those Christians who have been punished for refusing to cater a gay wedding understand the Bible's definition of marriage to exclude a "gay marriage" and feel they MUST REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT APPEAR THAT THEY CONSIDER SUCH A "MARRIAGE" TO BE LEGITIMATE. Making a wedding cake is a very special custom service for a wedding so they can't do that; arranging flowers for a wedding is also a specialized wedding service, and of course so is taking photos of a wedding. Some Christian owners of such businesses have decided they cannot do these things because they would be "validating" -- treating as legitimate -- something that violates God's ordinance of marriage. In today's paganized world that means they have to accept that they will be punished.
Do your religious proclivities allow you to deny interracial couples? Would you be "validating" "race-mixing" by doing so?
As I said, the Bible teaches that all human beings are related to each other, all having descended from one original set of parents. Racial divisions are irrelevant, so Christians have no problem validating -- treating as legitimate -- "interracial" marriages, and would freely supply the custom-made cake, the flowers and the photos for such a wedding.
abe: A friend of mine hosted a reception party for a girl in our church who had been a missionary nurse to Sudan and eventually married an Americanized Sudanese Christian -- one of the many who had fled Sudan during the Muslim persecutions of the Christians. My friend now frequently babysits the couple's two children.) /abe
I hope that answers your questions.
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Message 684 of 710 (802003)
03-11-2017 5:54 AM
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03-11-2017 4:49 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
You are entitled to your view of it, but so are the Christians who won't perform certain actions because they understand them as legitimizing something the Bible condemns.

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Message 686 of 710 (802020)
03-11-2017 10:27 AM
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03-11-2017 6:47 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
As Acts 5:39 tells us, we are to obey God rather than man. If the world forces laws on us that oppose God's law we are obligated to obey God's no matter what the consequences. That of course does entail consequences. If you won't worship Caesar you may get eaten by lions; if you won't affirm Transubstantiation you may get a stint in the iron maiden or buried alive; if you won't convert to Allah you may get beheaded; and if you won't make a wedding cake for a gay wedding you'll get fined at the least. I'm sure Mao and Stalin had some laws Christians couldn't accept too. Too bad all that has come to America, the former Land of the Free.
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Faith 
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Message 689 of 710 (802024)
03-11-2017 10:46 AM
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03-11-2017 10:27 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
The Bible has such situations too. Daniel and his buddies got thrown in the lions' den and the fiery furnace for obeying God over Nebuchadnezzar (I think I have the situations wrong but you get the gist), Joseph obeyed God when Potiphar's wife tried to seduce him, and got thrown in prison when she lied and said he'd raped her; Jeremiah got thrown in a slime pit for following God instead of the false leaders and prophetc of the day;
Jesus of course got crucified for claiming to BE God; the apostle John got exiled to the island of Patmos for preaching Christ; all the other apostles duffered some kind of persecution and martyrdom for their preaching.
So if America is now going to punish Christians we should probably rejoice to be in such good company. It's a shame for America though.

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Faith 
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Message 691 of 710 (802041)
03-11-2017 11:32 AM
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03-11-2017 10:53 AM


Can't be punished for beliefs
America does not punish Christians, it punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about the US, you cannot get punished for your beliefs (at least before Trump & Fellow Travelers) but only for your behavior.
The Roman Empire does not punish Christians, it punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about the Roman Empire, you cannot get punished for your beliefs .... [Just for refusing to worship Caesar]
the RCC did not punish Bible believers or Jews, it punished law breakers. That is what is so great about the RCC, you cannot get punished for your beliefs .... [Just for being Jewish; or for translating the Bible into the vernacular, or for owning a Bible or refusing to affirm Transubstantiation, and they'll come up with new reasons when they bring back the Inquisition]
Communist China does not punish Christians, it punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about Communist China, you cannot get punished for your beliefs .... [Just for meeting with other believers to worship and pray except in a state-controlled "Church"]
tThe USSR didn't punish Christians, it punished law breakers. That is what is so great about the USSR, you cannot get punished for your beliefs .... [Just for meeting with other Christians to worship and pray]
The Babylonian Empire didn't punish believers in God, it punished lawbreakers.; That is what is so great about the Babylonian Empikre, you couldn't get punished for your beliefs.... [just for refusing to bow down to a statue of Nebuchadnezzar]
Islam does not punish Christians, it also punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about Islam, you cannot get punished for your beliefs .... AND for refusing to convert to Islam, and for refusing to pay the jizya, and for building a church, and for not wearing the burka or the hijab or whatever is required, and in general for living like a westerner...
Ther must be lots more but I'm running out of steam.
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Faith 
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Message 696 of 710 (802062)
03-11-2017 9:15 PM
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03-11-2017 1:26 PM


Re: Can't be punished for beliefs
So what? We know the Koran contradicts itself. It's nice to the Jews when Mohammed was trying to convert them. When they refused he murdered them and advocated continuing to murder them.

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Faith 
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Message 697 of 710 (802064)
03-11-2017 9:19 PM
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03-11-2017 1:11 PM


Re: Can't be punished for beliefs
Gosh aren't Muslims NICE? Sure, if you ignore all the other things they advocate about murdering people. I know those videos are too much to watch but there's one where Imam after Imam preaches death to the infidel in one way or another, to Europe, to the Jews etc.
I didn't say punishment in America iks on a par with it in any of the rest of the list, I was OF COURSE showing the principle of the thing. It could get way worse if the Left gets its way.
You fail to understand that doing anything to legitimize a gay marriage is the same as being asked to renounce your religion.

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Faith 
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Message 706 of 710 (803015)
03-22-2017 6:37 PM


The "news not favorable to Trump" is actually what Leftist fake news is. It's opinion for starters, not news, which used to be a journalistic no-no, but we play by Marxist rules now which means it's all-out war against political views they oppose. Headlines are twisted every day to suggest something Trump did is wrong, it's selected and it's twisted. The very same information on a conservative site is most likely to be factual and then the opinion positive. But the conservative sites are suppressed while the Leftist sites are inyourface.
I admit, however, I haven't kept up with this topic, so let's declare a win for EvC: Hip hip hooray for EvC. Another smashing win over the conservatives.
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