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jar
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Message 685 of 710 (802005)
03-11-2017 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 684 by Faith
03-11-2017 5:54 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:
You are entitled to your view of it, but so are the Christians who won't perform certain actions because they understand them as legitimizing something the Bible condemns.
Biblical condemnation is not justification to break the laws.

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jar
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Message 687 of 710 (802021)
03-11-2017 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 686 by Faith
03-11-2017 10:27 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:
Too bad all that has come to America, the former Land of the Free.
Again Faith, reality simply shows you are wrong.
The land of the free means people are free to believe whatever they wish but it never meant that people were free to not obey the law.
And the God character in the Bible clearly sends the message that even common courtesy takes precedent over worship and obedience to God's commands.
Have you ever read the Bible Faith?

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jar
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Message 690 of 710 (802026)
03-11-2017 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 689 by Faith
03-11-2017 10:46 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:
So if America is now going to punish Christians we should probably rejoice to be in such good company. It's a shame for America though.
America does not punish Christians, it punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about the US, you cannot get punished for your beliefs (at least before Trump & Fellow Travelers) but only for your behavior.

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jar
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Message 692 of 710 (802045)
03-11-2017 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 691 by Faith
03-11-2017 11:32 AM


Re: Can't be punished for beliefs
Correct Faith. In each example it is behavior not beliefs that were punished even though so many of those were simply made up and not reality.
Thank you for supporting what everyone has been telling you.
AbE:
But again, you really need to check actual history.
Islam did not punish Christians and still does not punish Christians in most cases.
Babylon did not punish people who believed in God, in fact they welcomed them into their society. That was one of the major threads in much of the Old Testament, the fact that so many Jews had become assimilated into Babylonians society and did not want to move back to the barbaric Judah and Israel.
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

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jar
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Message 695 of 710 (802050)
03-11-2017 1:30 PM
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03-11-2017 1:11 PM


Re: Can't be punished for beliefs
xongsmith writes:
And why is refusing to bake a cake on the same level as getting eaten by lions in the Colosseum for refusing to recant your religion?
Well, even though I did not make that comparison it is a great question. But in addition, that's another of those kinda/sorta/almost/notquite true tales. During the period when that happened refusing to recognize the Emperor as a God got you et regardless of the reason. All that was required of the Christians of the period was common courtesy. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
But again, all that was covered in the Bible stories in 2Kings 5:
quote:
17 If you will not, said Naaman, please let me, your servant, be given as much earth as a pair of mules can carry, for your servant will never again make burnt offerings and sacrifices to any other god but the Lord. 18 But may the Lord forgive your servant for this one thing: When my master enters the temple of Rimmon to bow down and he is leaning on my arm and I have to bow there alsowhen I bow down in the temple of Rimmon, may the Lord forgive your servant for this.
19 Go in peace, Elisha said.
The issue for the Christians was not a matter of obedience to what the Bible says but rather as is so often the case, ignorance of what the Bible says.
Had they known the story of Naaman they would have known that they would be forgiven for acknowledging the claims of Rome.

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