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Author Topic:   Fake polls, fake news
NoNukes
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Message 507 of 710 (801024)
03-02-2017 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 502 by Faith
03-02-2017 2:06 PM


Re: deportations
I've often wondered how you ever got to be a lawyer with your logic handicap.
It does not seem that my logic is the issue here.
I'm wondering now why when you've been shown to be wrong, you continue to excuse yourself by pointing to the fact that you have not read or are not aware of easily noted facts. Your ignorance is no excuse. The fact that you don't know something means only that you should check, and not that it is safe to assume that reality is what you want it to be.
You asserted, without knowledge, and not because you had actually looked, that Trump had not issued any immigration orders. No, that process does not eliminate Trump. In fact it does not necessarily even implicate Obama since he is not the only president we've had prior to Trump.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 570 of 710 (801159)
03-03-2017 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 567 by Faith
03-03-2017 2:01 PM


: Considering that there are tens of millions of Trump supporters how is that there is SO MUCH negative stuff about Trump in the news ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY, EVERY MINUTE? Hey?
Is this really a serious question? There are over 130 millions of voters. Having millions of supporters does not necessarily even mean that you are popular among the majority of citizens.
Here is a factoid...
Hitler’s approval ratings were in the 90th percentile in 1940—41. Do you think there might have been some negative, eventful things that could have been written about Hitler in the early 40s?
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 683 of 710 (802000)
03-11-2017 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 682 by Faith
03-11-2017 2:45 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
You REALLY can't figure out what "validate a gay marriage" means to an individual Christian?
Of course, we can figure that out. It means that another bigot has found her cover. A cake (or a dress or tuxedo) does not validate anything. Marriage is a civil status recognized by the state and that's all of the validation that is required. A wedding is a ceremony, and cutting a cake is just a ritual shared among friends. It is one of the least essential items. Not wanting someone to have a cake is just mean spirited because it would not stop or affect a marriage in any event. But you just might be able to dampen someone's joy about their status if you treat them like a colored person.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 698 of 710 (802065)
03-11-2017 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 696 by Faith
03-11-2017 9:15 PM


Re: Can't be punished for beliefs
So what? We know the Koran contradicts itself. It's nice to the Jews when Mohammed was trying to convert them. When they refused he murdered them and advocated continuing to murder them.
Taking your statement at face value ... that would make the Koran even more anti-Semitic than Martin Luther.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 704 of 710 (802282)
03-14-2017 12:35 PM


To the OP, "fake news" means news with a specific purpose of making Trump look bad. Similar PC is only applicable to folks on the left.
This is exactly the kind of double-think that is described in Orwell's 1984, namely language that makes it impossible to legitimately criticize one political side, while simultaneously dropping bombs on the left by conflating them with communists or fascists as the whim presents itself.
Well given that there are several threads designed to accomplish this very purpose, it is clear that this thread won't be missed.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

  
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