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Pressie
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Message 51 of 936 (802332)
03-15-2017 7:25 AM
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03-15-2017 2:33 AM


Re: Very Late Reply
So, not even one of the definitions of evolution addresses the formation of the Universe, the formation of stars; the formation of earth, the age of the earth; or anything like that.
Just biology.
I think that creationists lie about what evolution entails...
Then, who's Kirk Dunstan? Does he know anything about biology?
Also, how do you quantify genetic information?
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Pressie
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Message 53 of 936 (802334)
03-15-2017 7:48 AM
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03-15-2017 7:33 AM


Re: Very Late Reply
Ah, thanks. Bat sh*t crazy. No wonder CRR makes up his/her own definitions of words and change names and then claim that his/her definitions are "scientific"!
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Pressie
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Message 59 of 936 (802389)
03-16-2017 6:26 AM
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03-15-2017 5:42 PM


Re: Very Late Reply
Actually, that's how all those professional creationists define evolution. According to them, a melting ice cube is part of evolutionary theory. They even pretend that the Big Bang is part of evolution.

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Pressie
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Message 60 of 936 (802391)
03-16-2017 6:31 AM
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03-15-2017 5:32 PM


Re: Very Late Reply
So, not Kirk Dunstan?
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Pressie
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Message 61 of 936 (802392)
03-16-2017 6:32 AM
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03-15-2017 5:32 PM


Re: Very Late Reply
Deleted. Same.
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Message 62 of 936 (802394)
03-16-2017 7:11 AM
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Re: Very Late Reply
Ah, CRR. How to you quantify genetic information?
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Message 65 of 936 (802399)
03-16-2017 7:41 AM
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03-16-2017 7:33 AM


Re: Very Late Reply
Nope. Didn't miss it. Professional Creationists preach that the BB is part of evolutionary theory.

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Message 66 of 936 (802400)
03-16-2017 7:43 AM
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03-16-2017 7:31 AM


Very Late Reply
Hey CRR. How do you quantify genetic information?

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Message 70 of 936 (802491)
03-17-2017 5:28 AM
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03-16-2017 12:23 PM


Re: Very Late Reply
RAZD writes:
...and it propagated to following posts.
And it propagated throughout the creationist literature without truth selection being able to weed untruths out in creationism ...they just keep on telling the same untruths.

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Pressie
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Message 108 of 936 (804480)
04-10-2017 6:49 AM
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04-10-2017 5:45 AM


Re: Luck & Chance
It's easy. Your defintion sucks because it doesn't provide any way of measuring genetic information. Yet, your models depend on measuring genetic information. Which can't be measured. Circular. That's why it sucks.
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Message 132 of 936 (804679)
04-12-2017 5:42 AM
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04-11-2017 8:16 PM


Dredge writes:
When scientists refer to the theory of evolution they are referring to the theory that complex life as we know it today evolved from less complex life - a single-cell organism, to be exact.
Nope, that is completely untrue. When scientists refer to evolutionary theory they refer to genetic variation coupled with selection processes; with natural selection being very important.
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Pressie
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Message 133 of 936 (804680)
04-12-2017 5:52 AM
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04-12-2017 12:56 AM


Re: Nature ran a lottery ????
Davidjay, you didn't answer the question. Let's remind you what the question was:
ringo writes:
Can you name two or three hundred of those "real" scientists who don't accept evolution?
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Pressie
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Message 294 of 936 (805364)
04-18-2017 7:06 AM
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04-18-2017 2:55 AM


Re: Heritable changes in a population.
This one is funny. I can't see anything about measuring genetic information at all.

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Message 307 of 936 (805555)
04-19-2017 9:13 AM
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04-19-2017 8:50 AM


Re: If Not, What?
This one was really, really funny.
CRR writes:
Actually this is an uncommon event. Frozen samples retrieved from the remains of the Franklin Expedition showed a small proportion of antibiotic resistant members. This probably IS a mutation but it exists before the bacteria is exposed to antibiotics. The reason it is at such low levels initially is that it is a defect that is detrimental and only gives a net benefit when exposed to antibiotics.
Similar results have been found from other samples from before we started using antibiotics in medicine.
The antibiotics cause a strong negative selection against the dominant non-resistant members allowing the resistant members to rapidly increase in numbers. This is one reason that antibiotic resistance can arise within a few years; as has happened historically; the resistance was already there.
Well, the "already there resistance" didn't help those 20 million people people who died as a result of the Great Flu...
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Pressie
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Message 328 of 936 (805678)
04-20-2017 5:47 AM
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04-20-2017 1:59 AM


This one also is funny.
Dredge writes:
I don't know what your job entails, but I am sure that if I could somehow remove the theory that all life shares a common ancestor from your consciousness,...
Well, I'm not a biologist, but from the rocks I studied it was clear that the first forms of life, as we know life, were unicellular. Those fossils I personally found in those rocks. Very, very old rocks. From my work I concluded that the the first forms of life (as we know life) were unicellular. No fish were dropped in there.
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