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Faith
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Message 136 of 146 (802043)
03-11-2017 11:42 AM
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03-11-2017 11:11 AM


Re: names
v There is no such thing as equally authoritative writings.

Sorry you're wrong. The hadiths are just as authoritative as the Koran and in fact the Hadiths are usually considered necessary for understanding the Koran. And I think there are other authoritative writings but they are escaping me at the moment.
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Message 137 of 146 (802044)
03-11-2017 11:47 AM
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03-11-2017 11:42 AM


Re: names
The hadiths are just as authoritative as the Koran

Wrong. Authoritative - yes according to some. But not equally. In any case, an eschatological prophecy about the antichrist is not an instruction to kill all Jews today.

the Hadiths are usually considered necessary for understanding the Koran.

This is so, for most Muslims (but not all). Similarly for Christians, of course - they rely on extra biblical sources for help interpreting the Bible.


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 138 of 146 (802055)
03-11-2017 5:06 PM


Allah as the moongod sin is a western urban legend
I think Josephus said that Abraham worshiped the moon God when he lived in southern Tigris EuphraoveR. This phonewon'tt let me spell the old Semitic spelling of Babylon but it has the word IL in it. Also see MARI documents for President pre Hebrew spelling of Hebrew names with god initially like Ishark spell dictator on phone won't let me spell Ishmael YES got it Also Shia have something of a holy spirit in Jesus called NURalMuhamadi.. Or Light of Muhammad and it is something like a baptism adoption offshoot SShe online is killing me by changing my words phone is killing me
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Message 139 of 146 (802056)
03-11-2017 5:52 PM


To Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, etc. Muslim's JESUS was Caliph
Faith refuses to comment on the fact that there is effectively 100 percent opposition to a present caliphate among this group. This will be ignored though she attempted to make Iran an issue earlier
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Message 140 of 146 (802060)
03-11-2017 9:11 PM
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03-11-2017 5:06 PM


Re: Allah as the moongod sin is a western urban legend
As I said, Abraham came from a polytheistic culture. What's your point?
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Message 141 of 146 (802061)
03-11-2017 9:11 PM
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03-11-2017 5:52 PM


Re: To Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, etc. Muslim's JESUS was Caliph
Funny how I "refuse to comment" on something I never saw. And I don't remember saying anything about Iran.
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Message 142 of 146 (802072)
03-11-2017 10:04 PM
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03-11-2017 9:11 PM


Re: To Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, etc. Muslim's JESUS was Caliph
This friends phone that I use, though bigger and easier to use than my own, constantly erases multiple words at once that I already typed so posting istough. I have a hard time typing ShiSShiashiia so I better not try. I can call them Shia this time yes. Anyway they are the majority in Iran and Iraq plus they October the Sunni in Lebanon by about 3 to 2. They 100 percent oppose the Caliphate. The last possible Caliph they could support was VANISHED over 1000 years ago. See Fatimid Caliphate. They await his return and it must be him. That's my take. YYoursis what
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Message 143 of 146 (802075)
03-11-2017 10:12 PM
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03-11-2017 9:11 PM


Re: Allah as the moongod sin is a western urban legend
What wAs the spelling for GOD in the Mari texts. See the name Ishmael as it was spelled in the amorite personal names quoted by akkadian writers in cuneiform which has vowels. El or IL or AL I Forget but Arabic Ishmael has IL Edit,,,,, I found out that the Mari spelling is YasmachEL but I was wondering if you had any theories considering your obsession with the word

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Faith
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Message 144 of 146 (802079)
03-12-2017 6:01 AM
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03-11-2017 10:04 PM


Re: To Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, etc. Muslim's JESUS was Caliph
I really don't know what you are trying to say. I hope you get hooked up with a better way of communicating soon.

You seem to be saying there are different points of view in Islam, and all I can say to that is Where have I denied it? Can't a person talk about a major trend, based on the main writings and the history of Islam and of the actual Caliphate we know lasted for 1400 years (if it even makes sense to say it ever stopped) without having to deal with every detour taken by different groups?


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Faith
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Message 145 of 146 (802080)
03-12-2017 6:03 AM
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03-11-2017 10:12 PM


Re: Allah as the moongod sin is a western urban legend
I can make even less sense out of this post than the other. I have an "obsession" with a word? What word? And what point are you trying to make?
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Message 146 of 146 (802374)
03-15-2017 8:21 PM
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03-12-2017 6:03 AM


Re: Allah as the moongod sin is a western urban legend
One point is the amorites worship of El in the 18th century BCE which seemed to be an issue to you. Additionally, Babylon in Hebrew is BAB EL or "gate of God" which is BAB IL(u) in Akkadian. IL was the Arabic word for God until the defenite article AL altered the word THE GOD as the standard for simplHaHaHavike God like HA ELOHIM in Hebrew is not translated as The God but simply God. You made the issue of it though.
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