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nwr
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Message 16 of 27 (801189)
03-03-2017 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Faith
03-03-2017 1:16 PM


I tried but I don't like the choices so I stopped.

I didn't stop. But I agree that the choices are poor.

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Message 17 of 27 (801223)
03-04-2017 11:11 AM


I'm a Solid Liberal.

I found most of the choices pretty easy.


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Faith
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Message 18 of 27 (801238)
03-04-2017 3:17 PM
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03-04-2017 11:11 AM


Finding the choices pretty easy no doubt shows the test itself is "solid liberal" like you. I had a lot of trouble with the choices because they don't have a clue about how the right thinks and just impose their bias on us.
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Message 19 of 27 (801250)
03-04-2017 4:15 PM
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03-04-2017 3:17 PM


Faith writes:

Finding the choices pretty easy no doubt shows the test itself is "solid liberal" like you. I had a lot of trouble with the choices because they don't have a clue about how the right thinks and just impose their bias on us.

Consider this very carefully Faith, it may tell you something about how confirmation bias works.

These posters said they found the choices difficult

RAZD - liberal
Tangle - liberal
14171dm - left
Nwr - ?

Posters that haven't commented
Cat's Eyes - outsider
Jar - ?
Theodoric - liberal

Posters that found it easy
Ringo - liberal

You conclude that because *you* found it a difficult choice and one liberal found it easy that it's biased towards liberals. But at least 4 liberals found it hard.

You formed your conclusion based on only one liberal view, whilst the balanced view from what you've just read is that we mostly found it hard to choose.

Why did you conclude what you did from these very simple facts.


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Message 20 of 27 (801251)
03-04-2017 4:54 PM
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03-04-2017 4:15 PM


a well designed survey.
Almost ever question offered no answer I liked and forced me to pick one that "I could live with".

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Message 21 of 27 (801253)
03-04-2017 5:16 PM
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03-04-2017 4:15 PM


I am sure that anyone who has no problem choosing is a liberal. Nothing you said implies otherwise.

Someone who has a problem choosing doesn't have to be a conservative, but might have some conservative opinions or borderline conservative opinions.

You didn't make a case against what I said.


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Message 22 of 27 (801259)
03-04-2017 5:28 PM
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03-04-2017 5:16 PM


Faith writes:

I am sure that anyone who has no problem choosing is a liberal. Nothing you said implies otherwise.

What??? Are the 4 (now 5) that said that they had trouble choosing lying?

You didn't make a case against what I said.

I made a prima facie case. As pure a demonstration of motivated bias as can be made. It's right there for all to see. Except you. And you're still doing it.


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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 23 of 27 (801315)
03-05-2017 1:08 AM


Given an extreme liberal vs extreme conservative choice
It's been a bit since I took the test, but I recall quite a few questions where I fall about half way between the choices offered. I think not making the conservative choice pushes me to be appraised more liberal than I am.

To me, a middle ground third choice possibility was often needed.

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ringo
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Message 24 of 27 (801350)
03-05-2017 1:12 PM
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03-04-2017 3:17 PM


Faith writes:

Finding the choices pretty easy no doubt shows the test itself is "solid liberal" like you.


One question I had a little trouble with was whether, "Business corporations make too much profit." I personally don't even believe that corporations should be taxed, so I don't think I'm the stereotypical leftie that you wish me to be.
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Porosity
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Message 25 of 27 (801354)
03-05-2017 1:33 PM


The quiz highlights the problem with some of the thinking we have in politics.
Many if not most of the answers are not as black and white as the quiz would suggest. We have many, many more choices.
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Message 26 of 27 (801362)
03-05-2017 2:51 PM
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03-05-2017 1:33 PM


Porosity writes:

The quiz highlights the problem with some of the thinking we have in politics.

But also the choices. In US politics it comes down to a binary choice.
It's also worth noting that most of us recognise ourselves in the outcome. Even Faith. It's hard to understand the complaint that she comes out as a republican.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 27 of 27 (802479)
03-16-2017 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
03-03-2017 1:08 PM


Like you, I'm "Solid Liberal"
but a few things about the site's description of a solid liberal miss the mark.

I'm neither "affluent" nor "highly educated."

I can't be counted as an "unflagging" supporter of Obama. Far from it. From drone warfare to his failure to push for the prosecution of fraud that occurred in the finance industry - among many other things - he did too much that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Finally, I am NOT very optimistic about the future of this country. In reality, the opposite is true.

I believe you've seen the "quiz" linked below. I think it captures the range of political belief more accurately than a simple left/right dichotomy.

The Political Compass


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