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NoNukes
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Message 106 of 960 (801400)
03-05-2017 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Faith
03-05-2017 4:57 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Mao Tse Tung's origination of the concept shows that it has a Marxist origin.
So what if that is true? The Chinese also invented gun powder, but we don't look for a Chinese killer every time somebody gets shot. Anyone can use PC tactics, and the examples given here show that any Marxist head start was overcome long ago.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 140 of 960 (801459)
03-06-2017 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
03-06-2017 4:05 AM


Re: Political Correctness
The Left wants us all dead who don't toe their line.
You continue to say this. Yet the record shows that you are the one poster who has wished ill on the other posters here. Your statement is pure projection.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 141 of 960 (801461)
03-06-2017 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Faith
03-06-2017 1:27 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
I really don't know if you liberals/leftists are mentally deficient or so locked into your leftist bubble you have had no exposure to things we on the right have known for years, but the point is that Political Correctness was Mao's term for the Party Line that had to be toed by everyone or else.
The origin of the term is totally irrelevant. Just as anyone can use gun powder, anyone can use political correctness against their opponents. This post of yours reeks of you slinging around terms like Maoist and communist simply as attacks on folks and not on the substance of their complaints about you.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 148 of 960 (801480)
03-06-2017 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by Faith
03-06-2017 1:25 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
removed...
Edited by NoNukes, : unnecessary and duplicative.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 153 of 960 (801487)
03-06-2017 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Faith
03-06-2017 2:49 PM


Keeper
Faith writes:
How many of you are on Soros' payroll I wonder?
Is there a single wingnut conspiracy that you won't buy into?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 205 of 960 (801685)
03-09-2017 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Faith
03-08-2017 11:32 PM


The first thing I heard about all this was that the mayor of Houston was putting a law in place to open public restrooms to transgender people. If people had been fitting in for decades why was this necessary?
Once again, you heard something completely inaccurate. Houston attempted to pass an anti-discrimination ordinance, that would have, among other things, banned discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. The opposition to this bill attacked it as being a bathroom ordinance allowing men into women's bathrooms even though as you are well aware, transgender folks were already using the bathroom matching their gender identity.
Here is the text of proposition 1.
quote:
Are you in favor of the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance, Ord. No. 2014-530, which prohibits discrimination in city employment and city services, city contracts, public accommodations, private employment, and housing based on an individual’s sex, race, color, ethnicity, national origin, age, familial status, marital status, military status, religion, disability, sexual orientation, genetic information, gender identity, or pregnancy?
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 223 of 960 (801753)
03-09-2017 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by New Cat's Eye
03-09-2017 12:15 PM


What happened was the feds backed off from over-reaching. Minus one point from totalitarianism. Where's the problem?
That's right. The feds left it to the states to be totalitarian and to dictate where no dictation is necessary.
Seriously. How is respecting individual rights an example of totalitarianism? The result of the feds butting out is that BS over-reaching state laws that prevent local governing are in effect.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 224 of 960 (801756)
03-09-2017 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by Faith
03-09-2017 2:05 AM


So the bill wasn't passed? So nothing should have changed about people being able to fit into whatever bathroom they prefer, no?
Well, no. Because the state of Texas responded by crafting a state law to outlaw similar ordinances in cities that had passed laws similar to the ordinance in Houston. The state law would require that folks use the bathroom based on what is on their birth certificate. In addition, to make clear that it is not just about using the bathroom, the new bill would prevent cities from passing anti-discrimination ordinances of any type or scope.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 232 of 960 (801777)
03-09-2017 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Faith
03-09-2017 1:30 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
What Chrsitians cannot do is validate gay marriage, period. THAT's the only thing Christians can't do for gays , and for which they are asked to get it elsewhere. There are also gays who agree with this.
Bigots always have a justification. Nobody is a villain when they get to tell the story.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 233 of 960 (801778)
03-09-2017 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by New Cat's Eye
03-09-2017 1:02 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
That's not really a fair comparison. Jim Crow Laws were just that; laws. They were put on by the state, not the capitalists. Businesses had to comply with them.
Historically, that isn't quite the way it happened. Businesses did not want to serve colored folks, and they and the rest of the citizens passed laws so that they did not have to do so. The result was that segments of the population could not do business in huge stretches of the cities and towns in which they lived.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 306 of 960 (801931)
03-10-2017 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by New Cat's Eye
03-10-2017 10:13 AM


Rescinding the guidelines doesn't take away anything. The schools can still follow them if they need help figuring out how to keep their legal obligations.
That is not correct. Having no guidelines is not the same as having guidelines once and then having them revoked. It is pretty clear now that there will be no federal enforcement from disregarding LGBT rights under Title IX and no legal obligation to follow the previous guidelines.
This guidance does not add requirements to applicable law, but provides information and examples to inform recipients about how the Departments evaluate whether covered entities are complying with their legal obligations.
It is fairly clear that the guidelines no longer describe how the "Departments evaluate whether covered entities are complying with their legal obligations." The Trump administration has now said that such things are to be left up to the states.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 344 of 960 (802456)
03-16-2017 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by New Cat's Eye
03-16-2017 10:28 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Ah, you misunderstood. There I was talking about the Obama guidelines for Title IX. Those didn't add anything to the law, they basically had ways to think about gender.
I continue to find this argument fairly silly. The new ways of thinking would expand the application of the law. Removing government sanction of those ways of thinking certainly has a legal effect, particularly when that same government is responsible for appointing judges who would be interpreting the law for the rest of us, and is also responsible for prosecuting violations of Title IX.
As an example, I'll note that the Trump' Justice department has withdrawn from fighting an injunction against Obama's guidelines and has indicated that the matter should be left to the states.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 350 of 960 (802549)
03-17-2017 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by New Cat's Eye
03-17-2017 1:53 PM


Re: Thread Misuses the Word "Totalitarian"
NCE writes:
Pssh, don't give me that pedantic crap; words are defined by how they are used.
You are in good company here...
quote:
When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, it means just what I choose it to meanneither more nor less.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 370 of 960 (802649)
03-19-2017 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 356 by Faith
03-18-2017 10:38 AM


Re: Witches Casting a Spell Against Trump
According to that tradition the outgoing President and his administration graciously leave the field to the incoming administration. This civilized practice has been violently discarded by the Left in every possible way since Trump won.
This is an obvious flat out lie. Obama is on vacation and his administration is gone. Trump spends more time bringing up Obama's name than just about any past president has spent blaming his predecessor, and for the most part, Obama does not even respond.
Your post is shamefully inaccurate.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 371 of 960 (802650)
03-19-2017 1:40 AM
Reply to: Message 364 by Faith
03-18-2017 1:06 PM


Re: Rapture
To be raptured is to be taken to heaven without dying. So no, I'm not wishing for death but to be spared death.
Let's not quibble about this. You don't have to be raptured to enjoy eternal life. Wanting to be raptured in your own lifetime means wishing a literal hell on earth for your contemporaries.
I'd recommend that you get your theology from the Bible rather than some "book you've been reading in fits and starts".

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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 Message 364 by Faith, posted 03-18-2017 1:06 PM Faith has replied

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