Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity

That has got to be one of the funniest things you've posted ever.

Yet such a law does not put many Christian's conscience to any test.So in reality it is not an attack on Christianity but only something that runs counter to the bylaws of certain Chapters of Club Christian.

So within your Chapter of Club Christian you are free to follow that rule and not marry someone of the same sex.However the Bible says (as you have been shown repeatedly in this very thread) that even common courtesy is more important than God's laws and that that definition does not preclude a man leaving his parents to cleave to another man or a woman leaving her parents to cleave to another woman.It is only ignorance that is being attacked Faith, not Christianity.

You still don't understand Faith. No one wants you to be punished except you. The rest of us pity you, feel sorry for you and pray that you will learn and forgo your desire to suffer.

There is no clear definition but there are at least four methods described. The most common is when a contract binding under law is confirmed. This is the Legally Married that is recognized by God. Most marriage today in Christian Churches reflect this position including those that involve same-sex couples. This is the Christian definition and is based on passages from Romans 13 and Peter 2. These are the basis for Christian Marriage today.A second method is when a couple are involved in some public witnessed ceremony. This version predates Christianity but is also reflected in John 2 where the Jesus character attends a wedding feast.The third method of God recognizing a marriage is when a couple have sexual intercourse but the third method is not clear since the Bible recognizes both wives and concubines but only the wife is considered married in God's eyes.Finally there is the ketubah, a unilateral agreement usually between the parents of the people to get married where the future husband makes a commitment to provide specific financial and human support and that is witnessed and signed. It is NOT a religious or State document but totally secular.Edited by jar, : religious document ---> religious or State document

So as we have said, it is simply a matter of folk wanting to suffer instead of learning what God wants.Got it.

No Faith. No one cares what you believe. It is behavior that breaks the law not beliefs.

No mention of marriage there Faith.Have you ever read the Bible?Those verses can as easily refer to shacking up as marriage.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin thos ---> those

You're correct.AbE:Kinda.What it does say is that the guy should move outta the house; what it does not say is what constitutes a marriage.
There are though Biblical standards of what does constitute a marriage as I outlined back in Message 269 and those standards do not mention anything about it being one man and one woman.Edited by jar, : hit wrong key, see AbE:

And once again that is utter nonsense. Only God and the sinner get to decide whether something is a sin or not. You have nothing to say about other folks sins.If you think gay marriage is a sin then your ONLY option is not not marry someone of the same sex.What other folk do is simply none of your business.No where in the Bible does it say it is a sin to bake a wedding cake for a gay marriage or to celebrate a gay marriage or to attend a gay marriage feast or rent a room to a gay couple or any other such action.Sorry Faith but you folk are just making shit up so you can suffer. That's fine if it makes you happy but do not expect others to think it is not just plain silly behavior.

Again Faith, reality says you are wrong. The SCOTUS ruling does not require that you treat a same-sex marriage as legitimate. The Bible does not say that you cannot treat a same-sex marriage as legitimate. No one has asked you or the ignorant bakers to treat the same-sex marriage as legitimate.BUT the courts have said that factually a same-sex marriage IS legitimate regardless of how you treat it. Again Faith, reality says you are wrong. No one has asked anyone to perform a homosexual act.Listen, if you want to suffer it's fine. No one has a problem with you guys deciding you want to suffer. But you guys whining about it does seem childish.

If I go into a bakery and order a wedding cake for my 6 year old's school pageant where she is going to play a character that is getting married, does that force the baker to treat that as a legitimate marriage? Suppose the groom is being played by another girl since none of the boys wanted to have to hold hands with a girl and get girl cooties? Suppose it is done as Kabuki?

LOLAgain, how is baking a cake treating a wedding as legitimate?You can bake a wedding cake cake for a marriage that is not legitimate.

Amazing but unfortunately it seems very common.As I have pointed out it seems that what you and so many other "True Christian"s want is to suffer and do harm to others.

There are two problems with that. First, the US Constitution would seem to preclude any rights for any group that claims a religious identity to anything more than the freedom to hold their beliefs and the free exercise of those beliefs within that group.No religious group has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone not a member of their group.Second, Faith has never shown how the actions called into question cause any form of harm to the "True Christians". This is fairly subtle I will admit. Granted NOT performing the acts results in harm but Faith and the others need to show that performing the acts causes harm.How does baking the cake for a gay wedding harm the baker?Faith resorts to the claim that it goes against God's law but even if true where is the harm in that?They may claim that it damns the baker to hellfire, but again, there is no evidence to support that.They may claim it causes them emotional suffering but that is the same argument used by the other side so it will not fly.