Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity

But as you pointed out just above that is not true either. It's not God's ordinance that is the issue but rather a limited sect of Christians interpretations that are the issue.It's not God telling you what to do it is those folk marketing some interpretation.

Again Faith, reality says that you are wrong. You do not get to decide whether or not someone is a Bible Believer. Sorry but them's the facts.You can decide someone cannot be a member of your chapter of Club Christian but you do not get to impose your bible interpretations on others.Thank God God's law carries no weight in the US.

Jesus of course was not a Christian but he certainly was both a communist and a socialist who was very much in favor of equality. Looks like you are yet another ignorant Christian who has never actually read the Bible and knows nothing about Jesus or his message.Remember, all the goats were his followers.

Once again Faith, you are simply showing that you have not read any of the books written by Marx or Trotsky describing communism just as you have not shown you have read the Bible.Jesus lived in a commune with needs met by those who could afford the largess expecting the members to produce what they could.He lived by "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need(s)". Also the parable of the Talents. Edited by jar, : add biblical passages since it seems they had not been read.

I don't read commentaries Faith, I read what the Bible actually says. Jesus did have a place to lay his head since he did live within a community made up of followers and outsiders that contributed to support his marketing efforts. It was a classic example of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need(s)". Wealth donors provided income and his roadies learned from him and helped market his product. But each left their job to join the commune you will notice.But again Faith, you have still failed to show any actual support for your assertion that "Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity" has any basis in reality.You have demonstrated that different chapters of Club Christian have created their own interpretations of what the Bible actually says yet that does not in any way change the fact of what the Bible says. You have only shown that you create the "Christianity" and "Jesus" and "God" that suits your desired beliefs.

Actually no, I quoted a Bishop that understood that the Bible actually says what it says instead of relying on what the apologists make up.But that still does not change the fact that the Bible actually says what it says and not what the commentators wished it said.But again Faith, you have still failed to show any actual support for your assertion that "Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity" has any basis in reality.You have demonstrated that different chapters of Club Christian have created their own interpretations of what the Bible actually says yet that does not in any way change the fact of what the Bible says. You have only shown that you create the "Christianity" and "Jesus" and "God" that suits your desired beliefs.

I agree. I simply report what it actually says. That is why I do not interpret what it says. I am not the arrogant total fool. Why. Why do we have to choose any interpretations. Why not simply acknowledge that it actually says what it says? Yet you cannot point to any examples that show Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity.Why is that?

Of course there is "says what it says". It's not a matter of what I think it says but rather the actual words written.Edited by jar, : fix quote box

Yes, we know you keep making that claim, yet it seems I actually post what the Bible actually says so all people can check to see if I have not reported honestly and correctly.For example: Acts 4:32-35 is not about simple charity but rather specifically says that none of the believers claimed ownership of any possessions and those that needed were supplied and those that could support supported.From each according to his ability, to each according to his need(s). It describes how they lived and a was one of the sources that inspired Marx.

But simply charity and empathy is the essence of communism. Those that have give to those that need.From each according to his ability, to each according to his need(s).Both passages reflect the fact that Jesus and the movement founded around Jesus began as a communist/socialist revolutionary movement.That is clear in passage after passage quoting Jesus.It is only later Christianity that perverted Jesus movement.

We are moving far away from the topic so start a new topic and I will try to educate you but Jesus message is really clear and simple.Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the sorrowful, protect the weak, heal the sick.

I understand that you believe what you are asserting but unfortunately it has nothing to do with accuracy or reality. There is nothing in either communism or socialism that says it must be forced on people and in fact almost all communist nations have been democracies.

Again, start a new topic Faith and perhaps you might learn a little.

Just a few sources that may help educate you. The Democracy you didn't know about.Democracy in ChinaCommunism is definitely based on the concept of democracy and a bottom up democracy. Mao in particular was very much in favor of democracy and part of what lead to the later wars (just as in Vietnam) was US intervention to deny the outcome of popular elections.If you do not wish to learn that is fine but you simply have no understanding it seems of even the most basic reality and history.

Bullshit.Sorry but that is simply utter nonsense and yet another attempt at a theistic con job.No law mandates that anyone have an abortion.No law mandates anyone must marry someone of the same sex.You position is not just dishonest it is absurd.AbE: The government does not dictate doctrine. Those who believe abortion is wrong are absolutely free to not get abortions.Those who believe same-sex marriages are wrong are absolutely free to not marry someone of the same sex.Tell a religion that it cannot force it's beliefs on those who believe differently is not establishing a religion.Edited by jar, : see AbE and fix the sub-title