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Author Topic:   Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity
ringo
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Message 600 of 1484 (803009)
03-22-2017 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 598 by Faith
03-22-2017 4:31 PM


Faith writes:
Obviously it's impossible to keep up a debate when one party makes nonsensical illogical posts such as yours.
On the contrary, it should be fairly easy to point out the logic errors if they're there. But you can't, can you? So you just run away.

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ringo
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Message 670 of 1484 (803131)
03-24-2017 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 668 by Faith
03-24-2017 11:33 AM


Faith writes:
It isn't kind to destroy the concept of marriage or treat sin as not sin.
quote:
Matthew 22:35-40 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Loving thy neighbor supersedes all other considerations of "the law".
quote:
Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
There is no law against loving your gay neighbour.
And by the way, longsuffering means patience, not whining about how you're being treated.

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ringo
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Message 673 of 1484 (803134)
03-24-2017 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 671 by Faith
03-24-2017 12:08 PM


Faith writes:
Love does not lie about sin....
Nor does it shoot off its mouth about sin.
quote:
7:1-5 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
A related verse:
quote:
John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
When you're without sin, you're free to talk about somebody else's.

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ringo
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Message 676 of 1484 (803137)
03-24-2017 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 674 by Faith
03-24-2017 12:40 PM


Faith writes:
I keep saying I'm not talking about sin and I'm not.
I QUOTED you: "Love does not lie about sin, pretend sin is not sin, pretend sin doesn't take people to Hell, pretend marriage can apply to anyone other than male and female.." Message 671
How is that not talking about sin?
Faith writes:
Interestingly you are accusing me of exactly what I do not do.
I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just pointing out how the Bible disagrees with you.
If I've misapplied the Bible, show us where.

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ringo
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Message 745 of 1484 (803398)
03-29-2017 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 744 by Faith
03-29-2017 4:28 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
Faith writes:
Oh yeah, OK, just give up on serving weddings because a selfish little minority group that's invented itself out of thin air has to have their way.
The selfish little minority group in this case is the gay-haters who call themselves "Christian".

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 751 of 1484 (803404)
03-29-2017 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 747 by Faith
03-29-2017 4:35 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
Faith writes:
Oh yeah now we get the PC attack. Last refuge of the demented Left.
It's not an attack. It's a statement of fact. It's only a small minority of self-styled "Christians" who are riled up about gay marriage - and I doubt that many of them would agree with you on points of doctrine either. There are a thousand ways to be wrong and yours is only one of them.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 754 of 1484 (803407)
03-29-2017 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 752 by Faith
03-29-2017 4:41 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
Faith writes:
the term "haters" is straight from the Leftist/Marxist playbook.
No, it's from the dictionary: Hater = person who hates - i.e. a person who has extreme dislike or disgust for some other person or thing.
As opposed to loving thy neighbour.

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ringo
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Message 784 of 1484 (803525)
04-01-2017 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 783 by Faith
04-01-2017 12:33 PM


Re: marriage ordinance again
Faith writes:
Nothing about marriage in Genesis 2:18-24?
The segue into a man leaving his father and mother is a bit odd, since Adam had no father or mother.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 872 of 1484 (803671)
04-03-2017 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 865 by Dredge
04-03-2017 3:37 AM


Dredge writes:
The Great False God of Equality....
"For ALL have sinned," is a statement of equality.

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ringo
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Message 921 of 1484 (803754)
04-04-2017 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 913 by Dredge
04-04-2017 6:15 AM


Dredge writes:
Any form of gay rights is an attack on Christianity.
Well, any kind of rights are an attack on tyranny.

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ringo
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Message 960 of 1484 (803905)
04-05-2017 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 950 by Faith
04-05-2017 11:31 AM


Re: A little compendium of leftist revisionist thought
Faith writes:
Seems "common sense" is one of those terms that has bit the dust lately.
As one of my teachers used to say, "Dirt is common - but not very valuable."
Edited by ringo, : Removed off-topic comment.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 969 of 1484 (804008)
04-06-2017 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 965 by Dredge
04-06-2017 6:00 AM


Re: ICANTs concept of establishing a religion
Dredge writes:
... abortion is clearly the termination of a human life. Therefore, to terminate a foetus is to terminate a human life. The premeditated and cold-blooded termination of an (innocent) human life is murder, isn't it?
So, if abortion is murder, do you advocate capital punishment for women who have abortions? Or just imprisonment?

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ringo
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Message 1052 of 1484 (834548)
06-08-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1046 by Faith
06-08-2018 12:12 AM


Re: Opinion piece from the Guardian
Faith writes:
... refuse to do something that would dishonor God....
You just need to change your ideas about what dishonours God.
You're stuck in the old Testament with the other Pharisees. Jesus came to clarify what dishonours God - He said it was failing to love thy neighbour.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1056 of 1484 (834556)
06-08-2018 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1054 by Faith
06-08-2018 12:53 PM


Re: Opinion piece from the Guardian
Faith writes:
Ringo says just change your beliefs.
I don't know whether you can change your beliefs or not - but you can change how you act on your beliefs. You could try, for example, to do what Jesus told you to do instead of what Moses told you to do.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 1060 of 1484 (834563)
06-08-2018 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1057 by Faith
06-08-2018 1:32 PM


Re: Opinion piece from the Guardian
Faith writes:
Jesus told nobody to disobey God, and your theology is not my theology.
God told nobody to persecute gay people. Jesus told people NOT to.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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