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Tanypteryx
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Message 376 of 443 (804538)
04-10-2017 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 363 by Dredge
04-10-2017 7:24 PM


Perhaps I choose the wrong words and didn't express myself properlly previously.
You do talk funny. Welcome to EvC.
What I need is an example of how the belief that all life evolved from a single-cell organism (macroevolution) is useful.
I'd like to hear that too. I don't think you will get the answer you seem to want from the people here who study and understand evolutionary biology.
You've given some examples of microevoluton, which is not what I'm after. I already know that microevolution has many uses.
Too bad, because that's what we have. We have microevolution that goes on for thousands of years, and for hundreds of thousands of years and for millions of years, and for hundreds of millions of years and for more than 3 billion years and every living organism on this planet is the product of all that microevolution. Some people organize our understanding of this process of microevolution into semi-discreet chunks and they use species to represent the boundaries of the chunks.
Those of us who are fascinated by the study of life don't care whether you approve of our jargon. It works fine when we want to communicate with each other and if we don't quite understand we ask for clarification.
We review and criticize and discuss each other's work because we want the best understanding of how life works and how evolution works as possible. And we publish our discoveries so that our group knowledge will grow. We do this because humans have brains that quest for knowledge and we strive to acquire that knowledge ourselves.
If you don't care or want to know what we are discovering, too bad, but we will continue none the less.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 403 of 443 (804889)
04-13-2017 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 393 by Dredge
04-13-2017 2:04 AM


If the belief/theory/"fact" that all life evolved from a single-cell organism has no practical use,
I think the most practical use is watching you get your panties in a bunch about something that you imagine is true.
can you tell me why so many people spend so much of their time and effort studying it, why so much emphasis is placed on it, why it is dogmatically rammed down the throat of anyone who wants to study science?
I think you are mistaken about what they are studying. It is just your delusion that evolutionary theory is dogmatically forced on anyone.
The study of biology is the study of evolution.
Since ToE is useless, by not believing in it I am missing out on exactly nothing.
OK, then, but I have to wonder why you bother putting so much effort ranting about something you consider useless.
If space-cadet biology interests you, fine, but please stop claiming it's factual.
I don't know what "space-cadet biology" is, but assume you meant it to be insulting of anyone who has interests different than yours.
I much prefer real biology.
Well, one of the facts of real biology is that ignorance can be corrected by education, but stupidity can only be corrected by natural selection.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 443 of 443 (806341)
04-24-2017 4:48 PM


A couple uneducated and uneducable clowns dragged an interesting thread off course. They did a great job entertaining us and vindicating science, evolution, and education, so not a total loss.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

  
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