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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
The Christ Triangle of the Great Pyramid absolutely confirms Jesus ministry and time frames..
To answer your direct question allow me to give you the direct link for your study, so I dont have to rewrite the whole thing for you. ChristTriangle. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Davidjay writes: The Christ Triangle of the Great Pyramid absolutely confirms Jesus ministry and time frames.. There is no such thing except in the minds of the deluded and con men.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
The Christ Triangle of the Great Pyramid absolutely confirms Jesus ministry and time frames. That nonsense actually has its origins in a book published by Charles Piazzi Smyth in 1864. He attempted to use similar calculations to explain that the pyramids actually foretold the Apocalypse. Which is said would occur in 1881.
quote: Well, despite his fancy math, we're still here. And much like your fancy math, it was utter nonsense. As is your drivel. And for anyone who wants a good laugh, here is a link to 10 idiotic theories of the pyramids that don't involve aliens: 10 Bizarre Theories About The Pyramids That DON'T Involve Aliens
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
No it is written in stone..... so that the blind can not say 'they didnt see it.
If I had not come they had not had sin, now they have no cloak for their sin or closed mindedness. IE...... The exact life and death and ministry of the King of Kings Jesus was written in the exact distances of the Great Prophetic Pyramid. If you cant do the measurements and add up the simple math, then you are conning yourself as you cant afford contradiction to your religious belief in their not possibly being design in anything. Your life depends on nothingness, all things must be random or your life disintegrates. Do the math, if you open your eyes. Its written in stone ! Another exact proof, as in EXACT PROOF. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Please be a scientist rather than a shallow denier, what distance do you disagree with, in the Christ Triangle. Use math and explain rather than Bachelor of Arts double speak and denials.
If not I win again cause I picked the winner. Design always wins Intelligence always defeats non intelligence Its no contest when intelligent design debates random LUCK. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Dio, I am not responsible for the opinions of others, only my own.
You are only responsible for your own comments, words and actions in this life. Its called the PRINCIPLE of RESPONSIBILITY. If you choose to excuse your choices because of the mistakes of others, thats your problem as you wouldnt be responsible. Please be mature and responsible.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Bullshit.
Simply Bullshit. Nothing but Bullshit. And again it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Jesus is not, was not, will never be the Hebrew Messiah.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
Please be a scientist rather than a shallow denier, what distance do you disagree with, in the Christ Triangle. Use math and explain rather than Bachelor of Arts double speak and denials. Actually, I am an engineer. Which makes me even more qualified to provide feedback on the fact that the building of the pyramids have nothing to do with your crackpot ideas.
If not I win again cause I picked the winner. Actually, you haven't won a single argument yet. But unfortunately, you are so deluded and in denial, your fragile mind cannot accept that fact.
Design always wins Depends on the engineer. Some designs have crashed and burned. In the case of life and biology, there is no designer. A fact that you still have not grasped.
Intelligence always defeats non intelligence Usually. It certainly is in this case. The more intelligent EVC posters (Tangle, Dwise, Pressie, Coyote, me) are defeating you (the non intelligent) with ease.
Its no contest when intelligent design debates random LUCK Wrong yet again. I am sensing a pattern here.
Dio, I am not responsible for the opinions of others, only my own. I'll give you that. But I wasn't attempting to imply you are responsible for the opinion of that other crackpot. Merely attempting to explain by analogy that you are also a crackpot.
You are only responsible for your own comments, words and actions in this life. Indeed I am. Which is why I make an effort to ensure I am not spewing bullshit. Perhaps a lesson you should learn?
Its called the PRINCIPLE of RESPONSIBILITY. quote: So now we are getting into software programming? Alllright!!!!!!
If you choose to excuse your choices because of the mistakes of others, thats your problem as you wouldnt be responsible. Please be mature and responsible. Right back atcha! And an extension of that, I would also recommend you get educated on topics before attempting to debate others. It will avoid you looking like, well, a doofus.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Christ Triangle of the Great Pyramid absolutely confirms Jesus ministry and time frames.. Even if such a thing were true, even if for some reason God did guide the appearance of such clues to the ministry of Christ in such odd places as the great pyramid, what could it possibly mean to a believer in Christ? We don't need that sort of extrabiblical revelation to know everything we need to know about Christ, and spending the time to investigate the evidence can only distract us from the clear message of the Bible. If such a thing had any purpose at all it wouldn't be for believers in this life let alone unbelievers. I've seen some good evidence that the zodiac contains the story of the gospel if you know how to read the signs, and that idea makes use of scripture to prove the point. Two sources: Witness of the Stars, a book by Bullinger, which I'm not very familiar with, and a study from ten years ago called The Star of Bethlehem, which a lawyer did using some Astronomy software. This has some interesting ramifications in dating events surrounding the Lord's life, including his birth. It uses the astronomy program to plot the positions of the planets around the time of Christ's birth to locate the star that guided the wise men. I think it's fascinating although I wouldn't put a lot of trust in it. You might enjoy it though, especially since it does involve some calculations. I've tried to follow them but it's beyond me without spending way too much time at it. In any case I think it's a really interesting study. It's also of course on topic for this thread about the prophecies of the Messiah. ABE: If you want to skip the introduction, how he got involved in the study and the clues in the Bible to the nature of the star of Bethlehem, and go to where he starts showing with the astronomy program where things were in the sky around the time of Christ's birth, start about 30:00: /Just found a shorter version: Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Jar .....
Please keep your feces out of this discussion. Stick to the topic and quit slinging it around, as if it brings clarity and coorectness to your smelly responses. Have some disciple, rather than letting go with your literary diatribe and slurs. I mean, even your evolutionary mates should chide you for your out of control postings. You will embarass them or already have. When you post 'bull shit' three times, it shows you have no logical scientific explanations. IE.. you lose the debate. Jesus fulfilled all Messianic Prophecies, including the exact year of his death Daniel 9 Daniel9 Learn some math and do the math and find the year the Great Mathematician Messiah died for all of us, and became the Messiah in truth. Deal with it honestly rather than closed eyed denial. Your choice Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given. Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Agreed Bullinger's work was fantastic and showed design in the STARS. Fantastic truth once again..... which is why I gave him due credit and explaned on his work...
************* Leo- The Lion of the Tribe of Judah The Lord has written his Prophetic Truths in the Stars, so that all could see His Future, so allow me to post an excerpt from anexcellent book written by E.W. Bullinger in 1893 called 'The Witness of the Stars' The Chapter being called 'The Sign Leo (The Lion) Messiah's Consummated Triumph'. And because of this linkage between the Lord, the ultimate leader of His People, and with King David of Old, it is my opinion that our King David in the End Time will also be of the Tribe of Judah, and born under the sign of Leo. And so along these lines, I will merely add in a few comments, and hypers after our brother Bullinger's research in ..... (...). **************************************************************** Here we come to the end of the circle. We began with VIRGO, and we end with LEO. No one who has followed our interpretationcan doubt that we have here the solving of the Riddle of the Sphinx. For its Head is VIRGO and its Tail is LEO! In LEO we reach the end of the Revelation as inspired in the Word of God; and it is the end as written in the heavens.BAILLY (Astronomy) says, "the Zodiac must have been first divided when the sun at the summer solstice was in 1o Virgo, where the woman's head joins the Lion's tail." As to its antiquity there can be no doubt. JAMIESON says, "the Lion does not seem to have been placed among the Zodiacalsymbols, because Hercules was fabled to have slain the Nemean Lion. It would seem, on the contrary, that Hercules, who represented the Sun, was said to have slain the Nemean Lion, because Leo, was already a Zodiacal sign. Hercules flourished 3,000 years ago, and consequently posterior to the period when the summer solstice accorded with Leo" (Celestial Atlas, p. 40). There is no confusion with this sign. In the ancient Zodiacs of Egypt (Denderah, Esneh) and India we find the Lion. The sameoccurs on the Mithraic monuments, where Leo is passant, as he is in Moor's Hindu, and Sir William Jones's Oriental Zodiacs. In Kircher's Zodiacs he is courrant (running); in the Egyptian Zodiacs he is couchant (lying down). In the Denderah Zodiac he is treading upon a serpent, as shown in Mr Edward Cooper's Egyptian Scenery. Its Egyptian name is Pi Mentekeon, which means the pouring out. This is no pouring out or inundation of the Nile, but it is the pouring out of the cup of Divine wrath on that Old Serpent.This is the one great truth of the closing chapter of this last Book. It is THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH AROUSED FOR THE RENDING OF THE PREY. His feet are over the head of Hydra, the great Serpent, and just about to descend upon it and crush it. The three constellations of theSign complete this final picture: 1. Hydra, the old Serpent destroyed. 2. Crater, the Cup of Divine wrath poured out upon him.3. Corvus, the Bird of prey devouring him. The Denderah picture exhibits all four in one. The Lion is presented treading down the Serpent. The Bird of prey is also perchedupon it, while below is a plumed female figure holding out two cups, answering to Crater, the cup of wrath. The hieroglyphics read Knem, and are placed underneath. Knem means who conquers, or is conquered, referring to the victory over the serpent. The woman's name is Her-ua, great enemy, referring to the great enemy for which her two cups are prepared and intended. The Hebrew name of the sign is Arieh, which means the Lion. There are six Hebrew words for Lion, * and this one is used of theLion hunting down his prey. 1. Gor, a lion's whelp.2. Ciphir, a young lion when first hunting for himself. 3. Sachal, a mature lion in full strength. 4. Laish, a fierce lion.5. Labia, a lioness. 6. Arieh, an adult lion, having paired, in search of his prey (Nahum 2:12; 2 Sam 17:10; Num 23:24). The Syriac name is Aryo, the rending Lion, and the Arabic is Al Asad; both mean a lion coming vehemently, leaping forth as a flame!It is a beautiful constellation of 95 stars, two of which are of the 1st magnitude, two of the 2nd, six of the 3rd, thirteen of the 4th. The brightest star, on the Ecliptic, marks the heart of the Lion (hence sometimes called by the moderns, Cor Leonis, the heart of the Lion). Its ancient name is Regulus, which means treading under foot. The next star, also of the 1st magnitude (in the tip of the tail), is named Denebola, the Judge or Lord who cometh. The star in the mane is called Al Giebha (Arabic), the exaltation. The staron the hinder part of the back is called Zosma, shining forth. Other stars are named Sarcam (Hebrew), the joining; intimating that here is the point where the two ends of the Zodiacal circle havetheir joining. Another star has the name of Minchir al Asad (Arabic), the punishing or tearing of the Lion. Another is Deneb Aleced, the judge cometh who seizes. And another is Al Dafera (Arabic), the enemy put down. What can be more expressive? What can be more eloquent? All is harmony, and all the names unite in pointing us to what is writtenof "the Lion of the Tribe of Judah." And why is Messiah thus called? Because it is applied to Him in Revelation 5:5 in connection with His rising up for judgment: and because the Lion is known to have been always borne upon the standard of Judah, whether in the wilderness (Num 2) or in aftertimes. In Israel's dying blessing the prophetic words foretold of Judah: "Thy hand shall be on the neck of thine enemies;.Judah is a lion'swhelp; From the prey, my son, thou art gone up.He stooped down, he couched as a lion, And as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?" Genesis 49: 8, 9 In the prophecy of Balaam (Numbers 24:8,9), we read: "He shall eat up the nations his enemies,And shall break their bones, And pierce them through with his arrows, He couched, he lay down as a lion, And as a great lion; who shall stir him up ?" The same testimony is borne by the Prophet Amos: "Will a lion roar in the forest when he hath no prey ? Will a young lion cry out of his den, if he hath taken nothing ?...The lion hath roared, who will not fear ?" Amos 3: 4,8 When "the Lion of the Tribe of Judah" is roused up for the reading, the Spirit describes the scene in Isaiah 42:13:"The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man,He shall stir up jealousy like a man of war; He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall prevail against His enemies." And this is what is meant and included when the Elder says for John's comfort, "the Lion of the Tribe of Judah hath prevailed," and hence, is "worthy...to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing" (Rev 5). Whether we look, therefore, at the primeval Revelation in the heavens, or at the later Revelation in the Word, the story is one and the same. And what we see of Leo and his work in both, we find developed and described in the three constellations of the Sign. ***************************************************************** The preceeding about the Lion representing our fierce leader coincides perfectly with Ezra, the Lord High's Priest. Because in 2Esdras of the Apocrypha, The Lord shows Ezra, in a vision, that a lion in the End-Time shall both 'Gather' and then fight the evil Eagle, known in other scriptures as the 'Anti-Christ'. And I beheld, and lo, as it were a roaring lion chased out of the wood: and I saw that he sent out a man's voice unto the eagle, andsaid, Hear thou, I will talk with thee, and the Highest shall say unto thee, Art not thou it that remainest of the four beasts, whom I made to reign in my world, that the end of their times might come through them? And the fourth came, and overcame all the beasts that were past, and had power over the world with great fearfulness, and over the whole compass of the earth with much wicked oppression; and so long time dwelt he upon the earth with deceit. For the earth hast thou not judged with truth. For thou hast afflicted the meek, thou hast hurt the peaceable, thou hast loved liars, and destroyed the dwellings of them that brought forth fruit, and hast cast down the walls of such as did thee no harm. Therefore is thy wrongful dealing come up unto the Highest, and thy pride unto the Mighty. The Highest also hath looked upon the proud times, and, behold, they are ended, and his abominations are fulfilled. And therefore appear no more, thou eagle, nor thy horrible wings, nor thy wicked feathers nor thy malicious heads, nor thy hurtful claws, nor all thy vain body: That all the earth may be refreshed, and may return, being delivered from thy violence, and that she may hope for the judgment and mercy of him that made her. ( 2 Esdras 11: 37-46) IHS from the stars and scriptures David Jay Jordan From LeoLionofTribeofJudah Sadly evolutionists HERE, havent studied the stars, or the math of the stars, or the distances involved in the Solar System etc etc... but the witness is there as Bullinger stated. Do read it Faith it will help you understand Daniel 9 and its exactness. For we are to witness to all people not just to the so called religious, because the Lord is all and He is the Great Scientist. So lets give Him due credit !. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I thought you should appreciate Bullinger so it's interesting if you've quoted him. Have you seen The Star of Bethlehem?
David, your posts are very hard to follow. I don't know if you are quoting Bullinger or what you are doing, what is your words and what someone else's. In other words, was it Bullinger talking about the pyramid or is that your comment? It's not hard to put quotations between quote codes. See "Essential Links" at the top of the page, and click on "Message Coding Help." OR you can use the Peek button at the far right below any post to see how that post used codes for whatever you want to learn. But you still need to be more careful about using the "Reply" button which is the first one on the right side bottom of the post you want to reply to. Please be careful about this because it's hard enough to figure out what you are saying. Please don't keep referring me to your links: I CAN'T READ WHITE PAGES, and yours are particularly glaring, my eyes can't handle it. Please always copy out the main thing you want to communicate. ---------------------------------------And again, David, the end time King David is Jesus Christ himself, his Second Coming. I don't know how you keep thinking it's another man. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
My posts arent hard to follow, For Yes, I gave credit to Bullinger and wrote in his book, as we should give due credit where due credit is deserved ...
I then posted his words exactly, and as I said.... put my words in (..... parenthesis....). And if you go to the article which I gave at the end... all the explanatory hyperlinks are included. Nothing stands alone, all things have confirmations from the Lord. In other words we can progress and move forward as there is so much to learn. ...and one truth leads to another. The more truth and experience you have from direct testing and trying of the Lord's words and creation the more FAITH you get.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Ringo, we just got back from the 3rd world in the tropics... been there a lot and lived there a lot as a missionary..... but amazing to see the stars in different positions, the Moon over head, etc... Polaris on the northern horizon, etc etc... love the outdoors and love watching the stars, they are a WITNESS to the awesome glory and power of the Lord.
I was working on Capturing the Light and ****** and the planes of the Solar System and Milky Way etc.... its a 3d challenge but worth the effort... TYJ. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is nothing related to Jesus in Daniel 9. Only a dishonest apologist can pretend Daniel is about Jesus.
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