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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
So, from the responses it seems as if you, TheArtist, didn't tell the truth about what was found in the pre-whale fossils.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
TheArtist writes: So, basically, you didn't tell the truth?
Since this was the cause to some heated discussion I had taken the time to investigate this particular case. Unfortunately I could not find the true origin of this quote/reference but as I stated before this was most likely that the reference provided did not match the quote.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
[qs=TheArtist] I think your comments are uncalled for. [/qs=TheAtist]Nope. Untruths should be pointed out. Every time.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Another creationist ignoring any form of scrutiny. Not surprised.
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Dredge writes: Oh, I don't know. Oil exploration companies employ lots of palaeontologists. Those companies do consider palaeontology one of the natural sciences. One of the hard sciences. Palaeontology is one of the basic sciences they are involved in. You mentioned paleontology. There are so many grey areas, ambiguities and uncertainties associated with paleontology that the whole flaky mess hardly deserves to be called a science. It should come as no surprise that evolutionists love it so much, since it offers their vivid imaginations a lot of room for expression. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Dredge writes: Not true. USING MICROFOSSILS IN PETROLEUM EXPLORATION . Oil exploration. Existing and extinct foraminifera species play an important part in oil exploration. In my post I said (or at least, meant to say) that species-to-species research has produced nothing of any practical use. From there:
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Dredge writes: Thank you for admitting reality. Natural selection (amongst others) indeed is very helpful in trying to explain how modern forms of life came to be here. Lots of evidence for natural selection. That's the first step in accepting reality. Ok, well thank you for that information. There must be at least some aspects of paleotology that are true and subsequently, useful. Even the theory of evolution contains some truth that is also useful - natural selection, for example. Now, any evidence that species get poofed into existence?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Dredge writes: Yet, we have seen species evolving into other species. Both in nature and in the lab. Right in front of our eyes. Also backed up by scientific evidence for those changes. You want to wish reality away? you could wave a magic wand and remove from human consciousness the notion that species evolve from other species - evolution's core ingredient - it wouldn't make an iota of difference to anything pertaining to the real world. Yet, we've never seen species being poofed into existence. Now, what to believe? Spooks or reality or some guy writing on the internet not knowing what a species is and missed hundreds of years of basic experiments in speciation?.... I'd go for the science and think that Dredge is not to be trusted.
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Davidjay writes: Were whales in the ark? Can an evolutionist or luck and chance specialist tell us how the whalesspout got on the top of its head. IE, did it move slowly to the top, or did a miraculously mutated whale finally mutate in one go, and have the spout just happen to get in the absolute right spot. I know, artists pics and all, and supposed closeness of fish and dinosaurs, even though whales just happen to be mammals and have live births. Darn whales are miraculous Ehhh? So do tell us how the whales evolved ? Slow sequential partial mutations, or one giant leap out of the water mutation where all features made them mamalian with nice spouts nicely situated on the tops of their heads. Were the mutations fast or slow ? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
So, Davidjay. Any scientific evidence that whales were poofed into existence?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Sure. I can. Changes in the inherited characteristics of populations occur frequently. In labs and in the field.
No species has ever been witnessed to be poofed into existence.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Dredge writes: This is how.
Going from observing small differences to claiming that the massive changes alleged in whale evolution is quite an extrapolation. How can you be certain that small observed changes mean unlimited change is possible? My nephew grew an inch taller in the last twelve months - does this mean he will grow one inch taller every year for the rest of his life? dr Adequate writes: Study the mechanisms to try and understand them.
An understanding of the underlying mechanisms.....
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
You like word salads.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
This one is funny.
Dredge writes: I think you made that one up. Scientific theories are not believed. Recently I had a bizarre conversation with my chiropractor, who believes in evolution... I don't believe in any scientific theory. I accept the findings of the hundreds of thousands of specialists on a subject, from all over the world, following scientific methods, to likely be relatively accurate in explaining reality. It works very well in the field I'm in. Exploration and mining companies are pretty accurate in what they will find underground.
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