Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.

Faith writes: It says we descended from something apelike. It says we are animals, that our ancestors are animals.

Faith writes:No, the point remains that there are no grounds BASED ON EVOLUTION for the morality we ascribe to ourselves.

Dredge writes:On the other hand, atheists believe in evolution, and evolution implies that all life is meaningless and dispensable and that humans are worth no more than bugs.

DA writes:Does that mean that whether something is a plant is subjective? That would be an odd thing to say.

DrA writes:But there is an underlying reality that is more important then these.

DrA writes:It makes no sense to say "It is a merely subjective opinion that the sun is hot, because we could just as well have decided that the word 'hot' should mean octagonal."

Dredge writes:Your interest in ToE doesn't stem from a love of biology, but from the love of a theory that supposedly proves God doesn't exist. Many atheists are in the same quasi-religious boat. Hence, it is appropriate to refer to ToE as atheist theology.

Genesis 3 writes:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Genesis 18 writes:17 And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?26 And the Lord said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.29 And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.33 And the Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

Faith writes:Well, if enough people with loving intentions could get to the starving then love would feed them. Love should also help them learn how to grow their own food and help in other ways. But love can't overcome some things like tyrannical governments that oppress the people and further their starvation.

Faith writes:I'm thinking of some third world nations. There's nothing politically motivated about such an observation. But bringing up American government is.

bluejeans writes:The choice is theirs, as you say, but the time will surely come when the Lord will smite them with fire.