The TRVE history of the Flood...

The idea that there ever was a Biblical Flood is of course simply silly and the evidence that it never happened is overwhelming.Just a few but remember that is even one of these exist the whole Biblical Flood nonsense is refuted. The Methuselah Bristle Cone Pine germinated around 2700 BCE and is still alive today.The Old Kingdom of Egypt ran from 2700 BCE to about 2100 BCEThe Unified Indus valley Civilization began around 2500 BCE and various civilizations have continued there without interruption sinceThe Golden Age of Ur ran from about 2475 BCE through about 2000 BCE when it may have been the largest city in the world

And your evidence is?Remember, the first one is a firm date and it alone refutes the silly flood nonsense.All it takes is one single piece of evidence and the flood myths get tossed on the trash heap.AbE: We are back in reality forum territory now so the Bible is worthless as evidence. Edited by jar, : see AbE:

So you have nothing.Lets see, there are all the petroglyphs and cave paintings, all the civilizations that exited straight through the dates when the imaginary flood would have happened, the genetic evidence from before Adam that shows no interruption and replacement by Middle Eastern genotypes, the total lack of any world wide flood evidence within the last several hundred thousand years and the Bristle Cone Pine that is still alive today and also the Pando Aspen Clonal Colonies that are about 80,000 years old and the Lomatia Clonal Colony of Tasmania that has been going for over 40,000 years and the 13,000 year old Jurapa Oak and Old Tjikko that is over 9000 years old against two mutually contradictory fables found in the Bible.

Here is a list of twelve cities that have been continuously occupied with nine occupied right through the imaginary flood without even noticing. There are many other sites, the Pyramids and other Egyptian Temple Complexes are great examples. The Egyptians were pretty much aware of floods and might well have noticed a world-wide one.

Once again Faith, that is simply not true. All of the items I listed exist. They are evidence. They are dated by a variety of methods including direct ring counting and genetics. Again, that is simply not true. The Bible is a lousy witness with two different and contradictory fables. In addition it is most likely simply a poorly written copy of a far earlier myth from thousands of years before the Garden of Eden or the other Biblical Creation myth.Also oral history is often very much exaggerated and fantasized. Oral history never trumps physical evidence.And remember just one single example is sufficient to refute the nonsense of a Biblical Flood.

Or Creation, the Garden of Eden, Talking snakes, the Conquest of Canaan and many, many more.

Why do you post such utterly stupid comments Faith. New layers are being deposited across the entire continent every single day.The imaginary flood explains nothing.

Except of course for the fact that there has never been a world-wide flood while humans existed and the evidence, including what is actually written in the Bible shows that is a fact.First, as was shown back in Message 120 and again in Message 171 there is not just one Biblical Flood myth but two and they are mutually exclusive. One or both must be false.Second as was shown in Message 169 there are paintings and petroglyphs from before the dates of the imagined Biblical flood that have never been submerged under water.Then there are the facts laid out in Message 175 that also predate the imaginary Biblical Flood and continued right through the period.And the facts that show the Bible is not a good witness were presented in Message 279.Then there are the other things that lived and existed right through the imaginary Biblical flood that were presented in Message 342 and Message 346 and Message 347.The TRUTH of the Biblical flood is that it never happened.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

We can remind you of a few of them to jog your memory.As pointed out in Message 643 which had the sub-title of "The truth of the Biblical Flood is that the Biblical Flood never happened.":

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Except of course for the fact that there has never been a world-wide flood while humans existed and the evidence, including what is actually written in the Bible shows that is a fact.

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First, as was shown back in Message 120 and again in Message 171 there is not just one Biblical Flood myth but two and they are mutually exclusive. One or both must be false.

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Second as was shown in Message 169 there are paintings and petroglyphs from before the dates of the imagined Biblical flood that have never been submerged under water.

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Then there are the facts laid out in Message 175 that also predate the imaginary Biblical Flood and continued right through the period.

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And the facts that show the Bible is not a good witness were presented in Message 279.

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Then there are the other things that lived and existed right through the imaginary Biblical flood that were presented in Message 342 and Message 346 and Message 347.

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The TRUTH of the Biblical flood is that it never happened.

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Any one of those things alone is sufficient to refute the fantasy that there ever was a Biblical Flood at the time claimed by those who market the idea that there was some Biblical flood or during times when humans existed.

When the flows happened. Geological formations created during the Jurassic Era; between around 200 million years ago and 145 million years ago would be Jurassic rocks.Edited by jar, : Fix quotebox

No need to wait Faith. The post just before yours answered the question.From Message 694:

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...what makes the flows Jurassic?

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When the flows happened. Geological formations created during the Jurassic Era; between around 200 million years ago and 145 million years ago would be Jurassic rocks.

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What makes it Jurassic or Triassic or Quarternary (the current era) is the period when it is laid down

The best method is by using multiple forms of absolute dating. There are all of the radiometric methods and also newer methods based on light but there is also position, chemical composition and other tests.The point is that these days dating is done through multiple and unrelated methodologies to increase accuracy and reliability.But what makes a geological or biological specimen Jurassic or Triassic or Cambrian is the time when it was laid down or lived.This is actually an important point because there is a striking and significant difference the geological and biological samples.The geological samples show recurring events, the same processes producing the same end results almost from the earliest to the most recent samples.The biological samples though show a clear evolution in both form and function over time with new form superseding older form. But what makes something Jurassic sediment instead of Triassic sediment or Quarternary sediment is time, not the specific material. When scientists speak of Jurassic they are talking about a period of time.

Utter bullshit Faith and really stupid bullshit. Forty days of rain would have no measurable effect on any rocks. It will not have any effect on granite, on sandstone, on limestone, on marble, on brick, on wood, on cement, on tar, on gravel, on most everything that exists.Loose soil might get moved around but a mere forty days of rain would hardly change the landscape. But we know what mudslides look like Faith and guess what? The imaginary flood did not leave us any evidence of those mud slides nor has any mudslide ever scoured the land flat.

Hell, even the Bible can't get the details of the supposed flood straight; either one or both of the stories has to be false.Yet that small detail (that the Bible itself refutes the Biblical flood having happened) pales in the face of several facts: The Pando tree has been around for tens of thousands of years and never spent a year under water. The Jurupa Oak has been around over ten thousand years and never spent a year under water. Old Tikko has been around since before the Garden of Eden without ever spending a year under water. And Lomatia tasmanica has been cloning itself now for at least 40 thousand years.And there are Bristlecone pines that have been living for over 5000 years.

If whales survived or sea turtles survived or dolphin survived or sea otters survived or manatees survived or wlarus survived or sea lions survived or seals survived or polar bears survived it is simply more proof that either the God once again couldn't do what he said he would do or that the stories are simply fiction. After all in both of the flood stories in the Bible the God character says he will kill everything that has the breath of life in it.Marine animals breathe, even the sea turtles.