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Author Topic:   The Nonsense of Revelation 13 Economics
ringo
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Message 241 of 274 (805073)
04-15-2017 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by Davidjay
04-15-2017 12:53 AM


Davidjay writes:

As mentioned Ringo, its your responsibility to get it right, without blaming others for getting it wrong.


I'm not blaming anybody for anything. I'm warning you that you are the one who is susceptible to doing silly things because of your belief in prophecy.
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Message 242 of 274 (805559)
04-19-2017 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by ringo
04-15-2017 11:39 AM


Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Word semantic twisting, Ringo.

Very poor thinking Ringo, as you have conveniently twisted the message of Revelation 13 backwards.

It says, DONT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST, I say DONT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST... its more than a silly thing to do, it will literally cost you your life, your soul.

So Ringo, dont say I am doing a silly thing by not taking the MARK, I and we have been basically living by Faith for the last forty years, as independant missionaries for Jesus, so it wont be hard for us to resist taking the MARK, we'be been resisting the religion of materialism and the fear of dying by starvation, by following the ever loving Lord and ever supplying Lord of Lords, all these years. Its not silly to follow the Lord and trust the Lord.

Its silly for you to be so naive and beligerant to just go ahead and take the MARK OF THE BEAST.

If you love the BEAST, go for it.

Not I and our household, the choice is yours.

Back to Revelation 13 and the MARK OF THE EVIL VILE BEAST.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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ringo
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Message 243 of 274 (805624)
04-19-2017 3:32 PM
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04-19-2017 9:21 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Davidjay writes:

So Ringo, dont say I am doing a silly thing by not taking the MARK....


That isn't what I'm saying.

I'm saying that you're more likely to take the mark than I am.

Because you're gullible. Some televangelist will offer you (for a small donation) a magic wristband that will protect you from the Beast and you'll order six of them.


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Message 244 of 274 (805715)
04-20-2017 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 243 by ringo
04-19-2017 3:32 PM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
No, I am practical and know current events much better than you as evidenced HERE.

Cashless society, technogy of chip is HERE and being used NOW. You control people by controlling their finances and using their fear of death as the modus operandi.

Ringo, you only have your belief system in the system to base your future extrapolations on, I have a track record of 40 some years as an independant Christian missionary. And I have lived in the third world in many countries. I have experiences, not just your theories, of yours.

Anyway Ringo, do consider not sticking oput your hand or forehead for the CHIP.

Back to the TOPIC..Revelation 13.... and the interactive computer that will individually speak to all people to control and quide them. The abomination of desolation computer that will know all biodata of everyone worldwide (except for those in the 3rd world)

Know current events, Ringo or readers.... know prophecy, know the future, avoid the MARK and connecting you to the abomination of desolations.

Edited by Davidjay, : Spelling


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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ringo
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Message 245 of 274 (805739)
04-20-2017 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Davidjay
04-20-2017 9:51 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Davidjay writes:

You control people by controlling their finances and using their fear of death as the modus operandi.


You don't need a chip to do that. The rich have been controlling people's finances for millennia. There is nothing unique in current events that corresponds to Revelation 13.

Davidjay writes:

I have a track record of 40 some years as an independant Christian missionary.


Being wrong for 40 years doesn't make a good resume.
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Message 246 of 274 (805740)
04-20-2017 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 245 by ringo
04-20-2017 11:42 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
What is too funny is that cashless societies have been the norm throughout almost all of history, even for tens of thousands of years before the Garden of Eden but the ignorant Creationists still think it is some future economic system. What utter ignorant fools they are.

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Message 247 of 274 (805864)
04-21-2017 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by jar
04-20-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Bartering is hardly possible in a so-called high tech society or with cursed large cities (made by man). Coins, and the gold standard etc...have been in place and as mentioned the Lord literally set the price of many commodities so the damnable rich deceiving merchants would not cheat the poor farmers or consumers.

This is why Jesus overthrew the deplorable cheating money changers or bankers...tables. And it seems he did it not just once but THREE TIMES.

Bankers cause wars, and churchies and materialists love wars and stealing.

If you deny deny deny, you will not see the future coming...wont see the present, and obviously have not studied the past.

The Lord demands his people to use their brains.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 248 of 274 (805893)
04-21-2017 11:58 AM
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04-21-2017 9:20 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Davidjay writes:

Bankers cause wars, and churchies and materialists love wars and stealing.


And they didn't need chips to do it.
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Message 249 of 274 (805917)
04-21-2017 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by ringo
04-21-2017 11:58 AM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Yes, chips make it easier, dont you know this Ringo ? You got get out more, and into the 21st century.

Credit cards can be forged, identity papers can be forged or lost, chips are embedded into your right hand or forehead. Goyum love chips and love to be sacnned and fondled and recognized, followed and searched because they deem themselves good citizens. Get in the line up if you like Ringo and readers and evolutionists, not me.

Electronically anyone with the reader can know everything about you, your medical records, financial records, your youve been, your browsing history, everything and its all accessed by the computer in Jerusalem called the Abomination of desolations.

deal with it ringo and readers, if you are aligned to this world and give your heart and SOUL to them, so be, take their damnable MARK of the Beast, and show love and dedication to the BEAST.

Your choice


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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ringo
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Message 250 of 274 (805919)
04-21-2017 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by Davidjay
04-21-2017 1:08 PM


Re: Dont take the Mark of the Beast
Davidjay writes:

Yes, chips make it easier, dont you know this Ringo ?


No they don't. The mark is only one bit of information, true or false, yes you can buy and sell or no you can't. That information can be conveyed by a tattoo or a brand and those technologies have been around forever.

Davidjay writes:

Electronically anyone with the reader can know everything about you, your medical records, financial records, your youve been, your browsing history....


Who cares? The mark is about buying and selling, yes or no.

Before microchips, the prophecy nuts thought debit cards were the mark of the beast. Before that it was credit cards. Before that it was personal cheques. Before that it was paper currency. Before that it was yada yada yada.

Prophecy nuts have always been so arrogant as to assume that the prophecies in the Bible were aimed specifically at them in their time. They've always been wrong. So why should we believe that your arrogance is different?


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Message 251 of 274 (806048)
04-22-2017 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by ringo
04-21-2017 1:18 PM


Re:Asleep nuts sleep, and deny
Ringo, those that are asleep, stay asleep when they choose to sleep in dream land. When they deny everything and the dangers ahead, they come up with excuse after excuse, and then plead innocence and yet blame the forewarners for not forewarning them. Theirs is a blame game, a denial, a irreponsible vacuum in their brain and heart.

But they are responsible for what they could have known, and they can only blame themselves.

Dont take the Mark Readers


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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ringo
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Message 252 of 274 (806049)
04-22-2017 12:07 PM
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04-22-2017 12:02 PM


Re: Re:Asleep nuts sleep, and deny
Davidjay writes:

When they deny everything and the dangers ahead, they come up with excuse after excuse, and then plead innocence and yet blame the forewarners for not forewarning them.


The Revelation was written for people who were alive at the time. Forewarners have been forewarning for two thousand years and all of them have been wrong. So yeah, it makes sense to question your forewarning.

If you want people to take your forewarning seriously, you'll have to show some reason to think that the Revelation applies to us and only us. So far, all you've done is preach the same old same old that has been wrong every time. Stop crying wolf and show us the wolf.


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Message 253 of 274 (806162)
04-23-2017 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by ringo
04-22-2017 12:07 PM


Re: Re:Asleep nuts sleep, and deny
No I gave you exact timelines, and exact methods to know.

SEE http://www.davidjayjordan.com/Prophecymysteries.html

Thats about 80 articles I composed with graphics and hyperlinks etc etc etc....... it should take you about four hours to read, another eight hours to digest, so come back in 12 hours and you'll understand.

But please dont excuse yourself by blaming the ignorance of others as if that will excuse yourself.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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ringo
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Message 254 of 274 (806183)
04-23-2017 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Davidjay
04-23-2017 11:18 AM


Re: Re:Asleep nuts sleep, and deny
Davidjay writes:

SEE http://www.davidjayjordan.com/Prophecymysteries.html


No. I will not read your website. You have to bring your arguments here.
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Message 255 of 274 (806307)
04-24-2017 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by ringo
04-23-2017 2:12 PM


Re:NO REPLY LIST
Ringo, you are on my no REPLY list as you deny everything and are repetitive and nonsensical.

When someone like you intentionally tries to stop a discussion by not comprehending that 'buying and selling' is dealing with economics, as do your compatriots. My patience with you is ended, and will not reply to you.

I may go on with this thread, or start others ones, although, my requests for the very basic Daniel 9 standard basic basic prophecy timeline has been denied so far.

You ask in Proposed NEW TOPICS, and then I will discuss it for others and READERS, rather than yourself.

Thanks for turning out for the team, but do try again next year if youre still around or if you have a sincerity change etc..

Thanks

David

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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