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Coyote
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Message 211 of 404 (807078)
04-30-2017 7:11 PM
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04-30-2017 7:06 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ? Bats ?
OK Chir says that his authority or quesser, says that we came from bats.
That's not what he said and you know (or should know) it.
You're being nothing but a dishonest troll.

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Message 212 of 404 (807079)
04-30-2017 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 7:06 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ? Bats ?
David the liar jay writes:
So do all you other evolutionists agree with the so called truth that we, humans came from bats.
No one but you said that humans came from bats.

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Message 213 of 404 (807081)
04-30-2017 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Chiroptera
04-30-2017 6:11 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
Darn I thought batman or chipotera, who has a avatar showing a bat, and who has an authority that quessed that bats are our primate ancestor..
Just to answer your question (just cuz I think phylogeny is fascinating):
According to Palaeos, Primates as a branch separated from the branch consisting of tree shrews and flying lemurs. The larger branch consisting of these two branches is called Archonta.
However, Archonta is a clade that includes bats (ahem!) assuming that bats are that closely related to primates. Recent analysis suggests that bats may not be as closely related as was thought. A clade called Euarchonta has been proposed to take this into account.
Unfortunately, my sources may be all out of date.
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So Yes, it seems Chir likes the theory of bats as our ancestor but thinks his authority is out of date, and so again we have a total non answer from the evolutionists, as NONE OF THEM Can step forward and tell us what preceeded primates.
Did we come from bats as Chir suggests
Did we come from coyotes ?
Or maybe amoebas in one gigantic mutational miracle ?
Why cant evolutionists answer any questions concerning ther theory ?

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Davidjay 
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Message 214 of 404 (807082)
04-30-2017 7:29 PM
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04-30-2017 7:27 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
Maybe these evolutionists need to wait for a pair of ************ to be mutated below before they will have the courage to answer the question, of where we came from / Where our so called primates species came from. Where it branched out from ?

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 215 of 404 (807084)
04-30-2017 7:54 PM
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04-30-2017 7:29 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
You son of a silly person! You've been told what was ancestral to primates: some long-extinct member of the clade Euarchonta. The same clade that gave rise to bats. NOT bats, ancestors of bats. And ancestors of primates, so ancestors of you and me.
I very much doubt that anyone knows which mammal is the Ancestor of all Primates. It was likely some little tree-dwelling ratty-looking little gal. It didn't look like a bat, or a monkey, or a human, but it seems to have been a great-grandma to all three.

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Chiroptera
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Message 216 of 404 (807087)
04-30-2017 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 7:06 PM


Lol
Okay, you had me going for a while, but I've finally caught on. You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

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Chiroptera
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Message 217 of 404 (807090)
04-30-2017 8:49 PM
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04-30-2017 7:27 PM


Question:
Have you given up pretending that you're talking about racism?
Edited by Chiroptera, : punctuation.

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Davidjay 
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Message 218 of 404 (807093)
04-30-2017 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by Coragyps
04-30-2017 7:54 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
Whoops we have another bat person who says primates came from the bat branch, hanging upside down until mutations reversed them and made us stand on two legs.
Thanks for another clarification of such silliness.
So, we now have sufficient evidence that evolutionists think we came from a bat branch, or bats themselves or bat mutations or something they cant quite get straightened out because its all upside down.
Thanks for your honesty... Cora.
Bat ancestry, and surely their mutations are therefore called batmobiles.
Creation wins again but evolution does produce some great laughs. Sorry evolutionists you stepped into that one.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Chiroptera
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Message 219 of 404 (807102)
04-30-2017 10:24 PM
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04-30-2017 9:02 PM


Coragyps aren't bats
Whoops we have another bat person....
Coragyps aren't bats.

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Chiroptera
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Message 220 of 404 (807104)
04-30-2017 10:36 PM
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04-30-2017 7:54 PM


Tree shrews! They all look like tree shrews!
My god! And we haven't even gotten to Morganocodon yet!

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frako
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Message 221 of 404 (807116)
04-30-2017 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 2:05 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
Notice how no evolutionist has stepped forward and stated where primates came from ? Are they embarassed of course. Do they know ? Of course not .
So that we can skip those steps where you ask for every link in the evolutionary chain sepreatly
Or you can use this site opentree Start form cellular organisms and work your way up to humans. Its a verry big tree it canft fit in a simple pitcure

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Dr Adequate
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Message 222 of 404 (807118)
05-01-2017 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 9:02 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
David, why do you keep telling stupid lies?
If your objective is to convince everyone that you're a stupid liar, you have succeeded and can now stop.

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Message 223 of 404 (807142)
05-01-2017 4:18 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by Davidjay
04-29-2017 10:06 PM


What race are biologists?
Davidjay writes:
Evolutionary biology, or theoritical biologist or false scientists,
That's a very multi-racial group of people you're trying to describe. It's a pity you didn't look at the diversity of names on all of those research papers that you've never read in the course of accumulating your complete lack of knowledge of the subject that you have chosen to enlighten the world about.
Davidjay writes:
hate to consider the effects of their theories, and pretend that they are just researchers of luck and chance and that their theories have no effect ...... on anything or anybody. They say they make no judgments of the cause and effects of their dementias.
Take any standard definition of biological evolutionary theory, David, and tell us which part of it you think is prescriptive, and why?
If you can't find any part of the theory that is prescriptive, then could you explain why you started this thread and continue to appear to claim that it is prescriptive?
If you don't think it's prescriptive, then what is it in a description of the living world as coming about due to descent with modification directed by natural selection that would lead people to racism? As all living groups of humans are, by definition, "fit" in biological terms (otherwise they wouldn't be here), what makes you conclude that different regional groups should be given different values according to evolutionary theory? Ignorance of the theory?

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Chiroptera
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Message 224 of 404 (807184)
05-01-2017 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 9:02 PM


Euarchontoglires
Let's continue the topic of branching until we're ruled off-topic.
Let's accept that Euarchonta as a clade that comprises primates, tree shrews, and flying lemurs but not, according to molecular data, bats.
Then the next step back brings us to Euarchontoglires. This branch split, one branch leading to Euarchonta and the other branch leading to modern rodents and rabbits.
Interesting: according to Wikipedia, there is some evidence that tree shrews may actually belong to the rodent/rabbit branch rather than the primate/colugo branch. Man, I love this stuff!

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Message 225 of 404 (807185)
05-01-2017 11:04 AM
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04-30-2017 11:55 PM


Re: I repeat, what branch did the primates come from ?
Yes, you have a small print graphics and employ artists to try and fill in your MIssing gaps and MISSING LINK.
But none of you stepped forward and stated who we branched from... until three brave evolutionists told us we came from Bats.
They dont say yet where bats came from, because evolution teaches everything branched from some previous ancestor via magic mutations.
So Yes, I tell the truth, and even your three evolutionists told their supposed truth that we came from bats. I assume they were being honest and not disingenuous and deceptive to get away from the obvious conclusion that branching equates to racism.....making evolution a racist doctrine.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
.

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