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vimesey
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Message 106 of 114 (807059)
04-30-2017 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 2:29 PM


Re: 'Laws did not evolve' is now a GIVEN
we are discussing how the laws of physics and creation came about.

The only person on these boards who I suspect us able to understand the sort of math you'd need to understand, in order to discuss how physical laws came about, is Son Goku. You need to be able to understand the sort of maths and physics that the world's best scientific minds are currently wrestling with.

And that counts me out. Just as it counts you out David - because it involves rather more than addition (assuming one is capable of actually adding up properly) and numerology. I am guessing that you're unable to do multi dimensional geometry ?


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 107 of 114 (807063)
04-30-2017 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 2:29 PM


Re: 'Laws did not evolve' is now a GIVEN
Please stick to the topic, we are discussing how the laws of physics and creation came about.

This is directly on topic. YOU started the topic and so far the only "GIVEN" is that you don't know what you are talking about. You cannot name any of the "Laws of the Universe", let alone tell us how many there are or what they mean.

Evolutionists beginning is the Big Magic Bang or Big Explosion billions or trillions of years ago,

See, you can't get even the simplest things correct.

There was no "Magic" involved in the Big Bang and there was NO EXPLOSION.....spacetime is expanding not exploding.

And you have been told over and over and over and over that the Universe is billions of years old not trillions.

If you want to discuss things with people who know how science works you shouldn't try to convince them that they believe things that they do not.

So far you have convinced us that you have no clue what you are talking about.


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 108 of 114 (807071)
04-30-2017 6:46 PM
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04-30-2017 3:23 PM


Re: 'Laws did not evolve' is now a GIVEN
Aha... a new semantic phrase brought to you by evolutionists.

Space time is expanding not exploding... life was created by a slow expansion as another evolutionist put in.

Its not an explosion, the elements or non molecules just nicely re-arranged as the expansion happened and just slowly drifted to our little part of the Universe, where they all just rearranged themselves into our balanced and harmonic world just by slow lucky chance and a slow expansion, that was nicely organized and not a big bang but just a slow moving bang expansion.

And I thought I heard every excuse under the Sun from evolutionists and now they come up with this, because they realise a Big Bang sounds to much like an explosion. And no one could ever believe such a ridiculous explosion could create life and help evolve life, so they slowed it all down to a slow slow expansion.

I nominate this evolutionary double speak phrase as the JOKE OF THE DAY

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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jar
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Message 109 of 114 (807073)
04-30-2017 6:54 PM
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04-30-2017 6:46 PM


Davidjay continues telling lies.
Davidjay writes:

Space time is expanding not exploding... life was created by a slow expansion as another evolutionist put in.

David, your post is just another of your lies. No one but you has suggested life was created by a slow expansion and your assertion that you are simply quoting what someone esle said is just another of your continuing lies.


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Message 110 of 114 (807074)
04-30-2017 6:54 PM
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04-30-2017 6:46 PM


Re: Your post

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

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If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

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Message 111 of 114 (807088)
04-30-2017 8:39 PM
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04-30-2017 6:54 PM


Re: Davidjay continues telling lies.
Chir stated it, I think Percy stated it, so evolutionists must now be using it everywhere to get away from their Big Bang Theory.

But if you like you can call them liars for stating such ridiculous double speak.

And do repost properly, as I didn;t state it, but was using their written words, as proof of their mistakes and new theories on old theories, on new explosions to cover up for old explosions.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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jar
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Message 112 of 114 (807094)
04-30-2017 9:04 PM
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04-30-2017 8:39 PM


Re: Davidjay continues telling lies.
David the liar jay writes:

And do repost properly, as I didn;t state it, but was using their written words, as proof of their mistakes and new theories on old theories, on new explosions to cover up for old explosions.

Sorry but no one but you said life resulted from a slow expansion.

You really can't stop lying in every single post, can you?


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Message 113 of 114 (807453)
05-03-2017 8:23 AM


Summation..

Creationism wins again, I win again

Laws have been proven to be created, and have been HERE since the Beginning as even the evolutionists admit.

No one has suggested that laws have evolved, no conditions or environments have created any new laws and no one can expect any laws to develop or evolve.

The harmony of all laws was done simultaneously in the BEGINNING at Creation, at Genesis.

No Laws happened by evolutionary luck or chance.

Evolution once again fails.

Name calling, and labeling doesnt negate the truth that laws were created and have not evolved.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 114 of 114 (807458)
05-03-2017 8:56 AM


Laws have not existed from the beginning and laws do evolve.
Natural Laws, like morality are simply human creations that describe a property of matter. While the properties of matter are inherent in the matter itself, the laws that describe those properties are the creations of humans and evolve as man develops more precise measurements and additional data. With greater precision and more data laws evolve. Often older laws continue to be used despite having evolved into newer laws as long as the older laws explain what is observed in sufficient detail for a given project.

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