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Message 633 of 936 (807719)
05-05-2017 6:14 AM
Reply to: Message 616 by Pressie
05-04-2017 7:58 AM


Re: If Not, What?
I don't know how to quantify genetic information ... yet. Would you like me to ask Chicko how he does it?

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Message 634 of 936 (807720)
05-05-2017 6:18 AM
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05-04-2017 3:29 PM


Re: Where are we now?
Tangle writes:
Idiocy. That's all really, just 100% stupid.
That's not a very nice thing to say.

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Message 638 of 936 (807724)
05-05-2017 6:30 AM
Reply to: Message 618 by Dr Adequate
05-04-2017 9:36 AM


Re: Where are we now?
Darwinsim can't be separated from the theory of common descent. "Evolution" in biology can't be separared from Darwinism.
Think of the science of biology as being covered by a big blanket with "Darwinism .... evolution ... common descent" written all over it. If you pull the blanket away you will find true biology, alive and well.
If you won't listen to me, will you listen to Chicko?

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Message 656 of 936 (808316)
05-10-2017 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 653 by Taq
05-08-2017 1:20 PM


Re: Part of the problem?
Taq writes:
Care to give an example?
The fossil record.

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Message 665 of 936 (808662)
05-12-2017 5:07 AM
Reply to: Message 658 by Taq
05-10-2017 11:07 AM


Re: Part of the problem?
If you want to learn more about the fossil record, read creationist science.

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Message 668 of 936 (808850)
05-14-2017 6:25 AM
Reply to: Message 667 by Coyote
05-12-2017 9:07 AM


Re: Part of the problem?
In graduate school, all you'll get is the fossil record according to the atheist cult of Darwinism.
Pierre-P. Grasse: "Assuming that the Darwinian hypothesis ... [paleontologists then] interpret fossil data according to it .... The error in their method is obvious."

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Dredge
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Message 673 of 936 (809189)
05-16-2017 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 671 by Coyote
05-14-2017 10:26 AM


Re: Creation "science"
Coyote writes:
Grasse died in 1895
Er, no; you got that slightly wrong ... he was born in 1895! He died in 1985.
Pierre-Paul was a zoologist and was highly esteemed by his peers. He was at one point President of the French Academy of Sciences, was the author of over 300 publications and received many official honours for his contributions to science.

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Message 674 of 936 (809190)
05-16-2017 6:23 PM
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05-14-2017 3:07 PM


Re: Part of the problem?
Tangle writes:
You mine-quoted a guy that died in the nineteenth century?
Wrong (see post # 673). And you've obviously missed the irony here - your messiah, Charles Darwin, died in the nineteenth century, yet you see no problem in quoting him! The pot just called the kettle, black.

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Message 706 of 936 (810237)
05-25-2017 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 696 by New Cat's Eye
05-25-2017 11:18 AM


Re: the word Evolution?
NewCat's Eye writes:
Biology IS fuzzy
Fuzzy enuf for Darwinist charlatans to play silly-buggers with.

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Message 713 of 936 (810324)
05-27-2017 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 707 by New Cat's Eye
05-26-2017 12:07 AM


Re: the word Evolution?
NewCat'sEye writes:
Are you retarded?
That's not a very nice thing to say.

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Dredge
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Message 716 of 936 (811002)
06-04-2017 4:18 AM


Lenski's E-coli are often cited as an example of evolution, but I've noticed that biologists consider it to be some kind of no-no to cite same as evidence that supports the theory that all life shares a common ancestor. Why? Dredge's fraglie egg-shell mind is confused.
Help ... me ... help ... Dredge ... not waving ... drowning ...
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Dredge
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Message 718 of 936 (811004)
06-04-2017 5:36 AM
Reply to: Message 717 by Tangle
06-04-2017 5:14 AM


Tangle writes:
No biologist doubts common descent.
I don't doubt "common descent" either ... or "evolution". But I don't accept that humans and chimps share a common ancestor.
wikipedia writes:
All known forms of life are based on the same fundamental biochemical organisation
... which makes perfect sense if all life was created by the same Creator.

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Dredge
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Message 743 of 936 (811316)
06-07-2017 3:21 AM
Reply to: Message 739 by ringo
06-06-2017 12:00 PM


Ringo writes:
There's nothing unimaginative about using it ONCE. What's unimaginative is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Which is the more sensible approach? ... invent a different system for each one of the millions of species of organisms on earth, or use the same system for each one?
Well, of course real designers DO develop those things using different methods: flight can be lighter-than-air, heavier-than air, fixed-wing, rotary-wing, etc. Echolocation can be by sound, by radio waves, by lasers, etc. oShow me a biological zeppelin.
But on the other hand, humans have a long history of borrowing ideas from nature to build stuff. Would humans have ever thought of flight if they hadn't seen birds doing it?
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Dredge
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Message 744 of 936 (811317)
06-07-2017 3:39 AM
Reply to: Message 721 by Tangle
06-04-2017 8:05 AM


Tangle writes:
How old is the earth?
Dunno. Could be a few years ... or millions ... or billions.
---------------------------------
I accept that a sheep dog descended from a wolf - this is common descent.
I accept that some bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics - this is evolution.
But I don't accept that humans and chimps share a common ancestor - this is an atheist myth.
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Message 746 of 936 (811320)
06-07-2017 5:15 AM
Reply to: Message 719 by RAZD
06-04-2017 7:14 AM


RAZD writes:
Dredge writes:
Lenski's E-coli are often cited as an example of evolution, but I've noticed that biologists consider it to be some kind of no-no to cite same as evidence that supports the theory that all life shares a common ancestor. Why? ...
It's not a no-no so much as a non-sequitur. The experiments show different lines of anagenesis all starting with one cloned organism and then dividing the offspring of following generation.
Why would it be evidence for "the theory that all life shares a common ancestor" Dredge?
1. Humans descending from a microbe is evolution.
2.Lenski's E-coli demonstated evolution.
There must be a connection between 1 and 2.
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