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Author Topic:   How do you define the word Evolution?
Pressie
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Message 627 of 936 (807704)
05-05-2017 4:45 AM
Reply to: Message 626 by bluegenes
05-05-2017 2:41 AM


Re: Increase in information thread?
I agree with you, bluegenes. A new thread like that would be helpful. It is rather amusing to me that these creationists distinguish between functional information and non-functional information. Coding and non-coding (non-coding basically is known as junk DNA to the man in the street, which creationists oppose so vehemently)!
I notice that the link CRR posted didn't give any examples in applying any of their formulas. It would be nice and funny to have a thread about it as applying those formulas through their vague definitions to real life examples lead to the Swedish Elk having "more genetic information" than humans.
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Pressie
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Message 635 of 936 (807721)
05-05-2017 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 633 by Dredge
05-05-2017 6:14 AM


Re: If Not, What?
Yes. Please ask Chicko. So far you have nothing of any value.
You keep on telling untruths about "more" or "less" genetic information. That's all you have. Untruths.

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Pressie
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Message 637 of 936 (807723)
05-05-2017 6:22 AM
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05-05-2017 6:18 AM


Re: Where are we now?
When describing you about your take on genetic information, I would say that it's 100% accurate.
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Message 639 of 936 (807727)
05-05-2017 6:44 AM
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05-05-2017 6:30 AM


Re: Where are we now?
You like word salads. That's all you have.

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Pressie
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Message 643 of 936 (807745)
05-05-2017 8:41 AM
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05-05-2017 8:11 AM


Re: Increase in information thread?
Really? Could you direct me to the place where he gave examples and applied it to any living organism? I can't find anything about it in the linked article. I think that you're not telling the truth, CRR. As always.
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Message 783 of 936 (813384)
06-27-2017 4:38 AM
Reply to: Message 780 by CRR
06-26-2017 11:02 PM


Re: The[n] we'll need to define macroevolution
CRR writes:
Kirk Durston at least tried to provide precise definitions but those have been rejected by many here....
That's one big thing I've learned in my short career (nearly 30 Years as a Geologist). Anyone asking for or providing professional, definite, short and precise definitions for any of the very complex phenomena is quite delusioned. Basically a crank.
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Message 786 of 936 (813398)
06-27-2017 7:47 AM
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06-27-2017 7:31 AM


Re: The[n] we'll need to define macroevolution
Ah, now I see where you're going. You want the ToE to involve Universe formation, star formation, planet formation and everything.
Unfortununately for you, the ToE is an explanation of the mechanisms involved in how the first forms of life (difficult to exactly define), prokaryotes as the oldest examples, changed into the variety of forms of life we know today.
The ToE doesn't involve Universe formation, star formation, planet formation or anything like that. The ToE only involes life; nothing else.
But, again, I'm not a biologist or anything like that by any means. I leave it all to the experts.
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Pressie
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Message 799 of 936 (813500)
06-28-2017 6:46 AM
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06-28-2017 5:58 AM


Re: The real question
It's easy. Biological refers to life.
It's a fact that the first forms of living (hard to define) organisms changed from something like forms of prokaryotes, to the variety of different forms of life we see today.
That's the fact.
The theory of evolution (ToE) tries to explain the mechanisms involved in those changes. The hows.
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Pressie
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Message 802 of 936 (813511)
06-28-2017 8:46 AM
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06-28-2017 7:54 AM


Re: The real question
CRR writes:
No, that's a theory or hypothesis.
Nope. It's a fact. The oldest fossilised forms of life (as we know it) are prokaryoytes. Fact.

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Message 919 of 936 (814312)
07-06-2017 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 918 by RAZD
07-06-2017 6:10 AM


Re: SRe: Polyploidy -- evolution by doubling the genome
RAZD writes:
So 90% of statistics used in arguments are made up on the spot?
Not all. At the Uni I'm involved in around 80% of all the students who start studying Chemistry 1 don't even get basic degrees at the end. That's been relatively constant for around 100 years. So, when I look at the first year fresh faces trying chemistry 1 on the first day, I can tell them that around 80% of them won't ever get a degree. I ask them to study, study, study and change the stats.
Stats are not always useless. It just prepares people for reality.
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