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Author Topic:   Why did the Christian messiah fail to fulfill the messianic prophecies?
Davidjay 
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Message 646 of 716 (807053)
04-30-2017 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 645 by ringo
04-30-2017 2:26 PM


Re: The Star: Common Occurrences Together Become Rare
I repeat and Faith confirms that all Messianic prophecies have already been fulfilled..
If you doubt this, so be it, the future King of the world will try to say he is the Christ and Messiah, believe him and take His Mark of the Beast..
Your choice and your responsibility
SEE MessianicPropheciesfulfilledbyJesus
Its straight from Jesus is Lord website
Your denials dont alter the facts, and dont negate Jesus and His KINGSHIP.
Hes not your King, no problem, another King is awaiting you....and hes definitely not a king... the AC

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 652 of 716 (807068)
04-30-2017 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 647 by ringo
04-30-2017 2:42 PM


Re: Future King is the AC
The future King as I mentioned in Revelation 13 thread about His economics and you taking His Mark of the Beast is not the Messiah, but the Anti-Christ, also called the Beast.
So Yes, Ringo, your King if you choose and love him, is coming in the Future, and awaits in the wings to replace Putin.
But the Messiah who has already come is Jesus, as Jesus fulfilled all the 90 prophecies concerning himself.
Choose your king or KING, the AC or Jesus.
Your choice your responsibility.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Davidjay 
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Message 688 of 716 (807454)
05-03-2017 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 678 by Faith
05-02-2017 1:03 PM


Re: The Star: The Woman of Revelation 12 as Virgo
Yes, Faith has this right.
Prophecy is bound by the Holy Days of the Year, Its the Lords calendar, as He created 'time' and of course the times of the harvest. There are two harvests, the harvest of the righteous, who are righteous ONLY because they choose the righteous ONE (JESUS) and the harvest of the unrighteous..... the Day of Judgment, the Day of ATONEMENT.
Theres a separation of 45 days for these two distinct judgments.
We (christians) are harvested at HIS 2nd Coming, in the clouds, and go up to the Marriage Supper, while the 7 vials 'rain down' on the disobedient...... the seventh vial being the Battle of Armeggeddon... the harvest of the unjust.
And of course, we with the Lord heading us, win.
As Jesus always wins.
But Yes, Faith is right, the Rosh Hannah is the time of the second harvest, and Hence a seven year period dictates that its start, the signing of the Covenant is signed in the early FALL season.
The woman fleeing to Petra, however occurs 3.5 years later in late February.....
Revelation

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 700 of 716 (807614)
05-04-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 697 by NoNukes
05-04-2017 8:42 AM


Re: The Star: The Woman of Revelation 12 as Virgo
No Nukes, you are telling the wrong side of the debate to chill a bit. Faith is chilling and keeping under control, but it is friustrating when the opposition to prophecy and design denies everything that is written, with their so called debates of one sentence.
The oppsotion to faith, love and design needs to chill in their negative responses and post something substantial. They need to learn to stand behind a statement of theirs.
Faiths responses to them are appropriate and she and I and Jesus are winning the debate. Of course, the opposition being atheists and evolutionists have to fight every prophecy as unfilled or bogus or unsubstantiated because even one prophecy shows design and control, and these atheists, evolutionists and deniers have to deny even one, let alone ALL of them as fulfilled. Their whole religion relies on there being NO PROPHECY.
Thats their motivation and hence they deny deny deny without thinking because their minds are absolutely closed.
MessianicPropheciesfulfilledbyJesus from JesusisLord website...

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 701 of 716 (807615)
05-04-2017 11:27 AM


Revelation confirms and advances all other prophecies
Revelation by the angel that spoke to John, the Revelator spoke the truth. How do you know, because it coincides and fits together with all the writings of all the other prophets of the LORD OF LORDS.
Everything meshes, all time frames mesh, all the scenarios of events mesh, all principles mesh. The proof is in the pudding, it wasn;t imagaination but straight from the Kings WORD.
Revelation
Mathew 24, 2 Thes 2. Timothy 3, Hosea, Micah, Malachi,Zachariah,,
Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, as well as the prophecies of Moses Deuteronomy etc etc etc... all mesh.
Tried and tested and shown to be exactly meshing together as one, describing the direction of time by DESIGN.
Lets let the atheists and evolutionists, time to release a little anger over this truth and these truths.
All prophecies fit together perfectly and exactly.
Lets get it exactly right, as its not a mystery but something we can solve and KNOW.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 711 of 716 (807773)
05-05-2017 11:43 AM


The Star of Bethlehem is slightly off Topic
This thread is suppose to be about the Messianic prophecies, all of which Jesus fulfilled, including the year of His Death
(Proposed New Topic..yet to be allowed called Daniel 9)
There is no prophecy I know of about the Star of Bethlem or the angel of Bethlehem, that stood over the manager where Jesus was. (Retrograde planets do not hover over a manager.)
However the magi, or astronmers, or Zorast****** did fulfill prophecy in that they gave gifts to the King of Kings.
jesus fulfilled prophecy gold and frankincense - Google Search
Fulfilling Psalm 72 ....
So Yes, the wise men followed the stars or angel in the sky and it lead them to the Messiah, the Creator of the world, and in so doing fulfilled prophecy.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Davidjay 
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Message 712 of 716 (808694)
05-12-2017 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 711 by Davidjay
05-05-2017 11:43 AM


Re: Which Messianic Prophecy did not Jesus fulfill
The challenge is put forward by myself for one, which of the Messianic Prophecies did not Jesus fulfill ?
But do note, you have to know prophecy and timelines and the placement of events before you can get it right.
But for the Messianic Prophecies that do not include future events, which of the things Jesus did and said, and were part of his birth, life and death were not forertold by His past prophets that went before HIM.
If you cant come up with any, then AGAIN your lack of design and intelligence fails, random-ness fails, and Design wins.
Design of time is called prophecy, all major events are by design, none are by chance and by accident, but first lets discuss or I challenge you to bring forth your supposed Mesianic prophecies that have NOT been fulfilled by Jesus, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings
and ...wait for it .....
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Creator.
Not magic mutations and luck and chance, but Jesus was the Creator.....
OCS
David
Bring'em on

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Davidjay 
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Message 713 of 716 (809150)
05-16-2017 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 712 by Davidjay
05-12-2017 9:27 AM


Re: Which Messianic Prophecy did not Jesus fulfill
Wait for it... and we waited for it... because by an absense of dissent and because no one can post any Messianic Prophecy that Jesus did not fulfill... I can declare a winner and a fulfiller of all Messianic Prophecies
Jesus wins and was and is the Messiah of all time and of all the Universe.
To join His winning team go HERE..
SalvationForest
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Evolutyionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.

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Davidjay 
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Message 714 of 716 (809710)
05-20-2017 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 713 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Which Messianic Prophecy did not Jesus fulfill
Because we cant post anti-evolution verses HERE, let me post some more Messianic Prophetic verses
Crucified with criminals
Isaiah 53:12
Matthew 27:35
His body was pierced
Zechariah 12:10; Ps.
22:16
John 20:25, 27
Thirsty during execution
Psalm 22:16
John 19:28
Given vinegar and gall for thirst
Psalm 69:21
Matthew 27:34
Soldiers gambled for his garment
Psalm 22:18
Matthew 27:35
This is not contrived and not a set up, and not self fulfilled.
No one dies like this, except via design, and except with Jesus consent to die in such a disgusting way... Nevertheless the Saviour of the Universe had to go through with this humiliation, suffering and death to be able to die for the sins of the whole world, and HE DID.
Jesus

Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Davidjay 
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Message 715 of 716 (810318)
05-27-2017 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 714 by Davidjay
05-20-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Summary Mode, as Jesus fulfilled all Messianic Prophecies
Summary Mode please...as no one can deny that Jesus did not fulfill all prophecies concerning him.. for He was the Messiah.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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