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JonF
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Message 28 of 1352 (804256)
04-06-2017 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Davidjay
04-06-2017 10:34 AM


Re: No way the strata represent great eras of time
If you have any mathematical or logical proof, present it here.

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Message 90 of 1352 (804331)
04-08-2017 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Phat
04-08-2017 2:30 AM


Re: Evidence against the global flood being ignored
Yeah, the archetype of looney tunes.
COSMOS WITHOUT GRAVITATION is especially risible.

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Message 469 of 1352 (806215)
04-23-2017 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 466 by edge
04-23-2017 8:14 PM


Re: Continental Separation after Flood Confirmed
Of course no claim of rapid continental "drift" will be considered without at least a reasonable estimate of the heat produced and its effects.

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JonF
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Message 499 of 1352 (806271)
04-24-2017 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 476 by Pressie
04-24-2017 5:41 AM


Re: All means all
Actually, Mount Everest contains marine fossils in the highest of the exposed sequences.
Leonardo da Vinci realized that the fossils on mountaintops could not have been placed by a catastrophic flood. Creationists are still centuries behind.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/vinci.html

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JonF
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Message 506 of 1352 (806283)
04-24-2017 10:23 AM
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04-24-2017 9:08 AM


Re: mountains
Let me guess: Leonardo was thinking only of the water covering the current mountain heights?
No, he realized that the fossils on mountain heights could not have been deposited by a flood because they were obviously mostly intact in the places where they lived, and the mountains must have been raised after the fossils were deposited.

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JonF
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Message 513 of 1352 (806300)
04-24-2017 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 507 by Davidjay
04-24-2017 11:00 AM


Re: Shells on mountains
But in evolutionary theory, where there are no catastrophic events
BZZZT! Wrong. Here's a copy of the home game, thanks for playing.
the mountains must have risen inch by inch just as with the demented continental drift theory
Yep, they did.
I'm not interested in your un-evidenced assertions.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 537 of 1352 (806428)
04-25-2017 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 535 by Davidjay
04-25-2017 1:33 PM


Re: Inch by inchers are having trouble with their inches
Evolutionists deny anything catastrophic
Nope.
However we do deny catastrophic plate tectonics because we don't see the obvious and inescapable side effects; the surface of the Earth molten and all life destroyed (except perhaps for some thermphilic bacteria).
1,000x5280x12=63,360,000 years
Units matter. 1000 miles x 5280 feet/mile x 12 inches/foot = 6,360 inches. Which proves you can convert 1,00 miles to inches, and nothing more. Congratulations!
Nobody has claimed any plate is moving an inch per year.
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JonF
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Message 876 of 1352 (808546)
05-11-2017 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 869 by edge
05-11-2017 11:33 AM


Re: Six "Flood" Arguments Creationists Can't Answer
FWIW and considering you are unlikely to get an answer, the pollen is probably the old PRATT about the incompetent Clifford Burdick. See Chadwick's PRECAMBRIAN POLLEN IN THE GRAND CANYON A REEXAMINATION.
There is evidence of grasses in the Cretaceous. Dinosaurs Dined on Grass, Dinosaur Coprolites and the Early Evolution of Grasses and Grazers. Don't see how this gives anyt comfort to creationists.

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JonF
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Message 899 of 1352 (809166)
05-16-2017 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 891 by edge
05-16-2017 9:59 AM


Re: Six "Flood" Arguments Creationists Can't Answer
The first thing I noticed about this occurrence is that nothing has been published since the 1960's when it was first announced.
PRECAMBRIAN POLLEN IN THE GRAND CANYON A REEXAMINATION
Precambrian Pollen
The guy who collected the pollen is famous for incompetence.

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Message 903 of 1352 (809262)
05-17-2017 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 901 by CRR
05-17-2017 2:41 AM


Re: Six "Flood" Arguments Creationists Can't Answer
Which has nothing to do with Burdick's claims that the pollen indicates a young Earth..

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Message 1005 of 1352 (812026)
06-14-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1004 by Faith
06-14-2017 11:15 AM


Re: I've proved it a million times already
The "working hypothesis" is known as Uniformitarianism
No, it isn't.
since we know things were very very different before the Flood, immensely more favorable to growing things, we ain't buying it.
We do not know that. Your allegedly infallible interpretation of the Bible is the only evidence for that, and as pointed out above real-world evidence shows that to be untrue.
Water was water.
Gravity was gravity.
Water didn't sort fossils in the observed order.

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Message 1026 of 1352 (812208)
06-15-2017 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1024 by ICANT
06-15-2017 12:03 PM


Re: Ducking, dodging and weaving (same as always)
You know there are thousands of black smokers in the oceans that spew out superheated water of 350c constantly.
And the world doesn't flood. Gosh. They can't be the fountains of the deep unless they suddenly started spewing out orders of magnitude more water. Why and how would that happen?
What would the water temperature be if enough of that water were added to flood the Earth? What would the temperature be aboard the alleged Ark?
(The correct notation is 350 C).

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Message 1054 of 1352 (812360)
06-16-2017 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1034 by Faith
06-15-2017 5:06 PM


Re: It seems simple to me
Couldn't be that you have the wrong idea about how the laws of physics work in such a situation.
Yep, couldn't be. We know the laws of physics very well. We know how water affects things very well. We know how gravity works very well.

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Message 1055 of 1352 (812361)
06-16-2017 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1051 by ICANT
06-16-2017 3:57 AM


Re: Ducking, dodging and weaving (same as always)
Any hole in the earth is a fountain whether it spews out cold water, hot water, or molten rock.
Ok, if you want to define it that way.
But then you have no evidence of any of those holes producing water in the quantity required. Calling them fountains is just labeling.

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Message 1064 of 1352 (812410)
06-16-2017 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1060 by Faith
06-16-2017 11:10 AM


Re: The date of the flood...
There is no such thing as the KT or PT boundaries
There are world-wide features that we have labeled "KT boundary" and "PT boundary". If you want to call them something else, make sure you are clear about what you mean and bend extra effort to communicate effectively.
But they do exist, no matter how we label them.

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