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jar
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Message 827 of 1352 (808326)
05-10-2017 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 825 by Faith
05-09-2017 11:54 PM


Re: The Flood Explains ... most things geological
Faith writes:
And about mudslides, if you can figure out how it could rain for forty days and nights without producing prodigious mudslides, please enlighten.
There is nothing to figure out Faith; we simply need to look at what is happening now.
Mudslides only happen in limited places.
Forty days and forty nights of rain will not dissolve rock.
No mudslide has ever scoured the land flat.
Hell, even the Bible can't get the details of the supposed flood straight; either one or both of the stories has to be false.
Yet that small detail (that the Bible itself refutes the Biblical flood having happened) pales in the face of several facts:
The Pando tree has been around for tens of thousands of years and never spent a year under water.
The Jurupa Oak has been around over ten thousand years and never spent a year under water.
Old Tikko has been around since before the Garden of Eden without ever spending a year under water.
And Lomatia tasmanica has been cloning itself now for at least 40 thousand years.
And there are Bristlecone pines that have been living for over 5000 years.
The Flood never happened.

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jar
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Message 833 of 1352 (808369)
05-10-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 830 by Faith
05-10-2017 10:53 AM


Re: The Flood Explains ... most things geological
Faith writes:
Forty days and nights of constant rain all over the entire earth would cause mudslides whether or not there were also rocks.
And we know what such mudslides would look like. They would not scour the land flat.
Faith, change leaves evidence. What has not ever been found is any evidence of some world-wide flood. It does not matter how many times you claim the evidence is the strata the strata say you are wrong.

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jar
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Message 850 of 1352 (808450)
05-10-2017 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 849 by ringo
05-10-2017 9:01 PM


Re: The Flood Explains ... most things geological
ringo writes:
Why are strata full of dead things not evidence for a lot of small floods?
Or dying of old age?
Or dying from the cold?
Or dying from thirst.
Or dying from disease.
or ...

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jar
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Message 880 of 1352 (808625)
05-11-2017 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 879 by Taq
05-11-2017 4:51 PM


The Flood Explains NOTHING except that some people are gullible.
What Faith can't explain using the imaginary flood is what actually exists. She cannot explain the White Cliffs of Dover.
She cannot explain the things that were alive before the flood (many before the Garden of Eden) yest have never been under water for a year.
She cannot explain the paintings and petroglyphs from before the flood (many from before the Garden of Eden) that were never under water for a year.
She cannot explain the cities that existed before and after the flood yet were not flooded.
She cannot explain the civilizations (many in the Middle East) that existed before and after the flood but never even noticed it.
Reality says that the Biblical flood never happened.
The Bible shows that the Biblical Flood never happened.

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jar
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Message 882 of 1352 (808631)
05-11-2017 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 881 by Tanypteryx
05-11-2017 6:00 PM


Re: The Flood Explains NOTHING except that some people are gullible.
Tanypteryx writes:
Yeah, but what about magic? Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't magic.
And if Faith claimed "Magic" I'd certainly have to admit that was possible.

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jar
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Message 912 of 1352 (809675)
05-20-2017 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 910 by edge
05-20-2017 9:50 AM


Re: Leonardo DaVinci.. the Grand Master, Phi and Flood into depths
What so funny about the fools that believe in a Biblical Flood is that the magic flood even placed the shells INSIDE rocks and not just on the rocks.
No honest and sane person today can believe there was some Biblical flood.

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jar
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Message 948 of 1352 (810931)
06-03-2017 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 947 by Davidjay
06-03-2017 6:47 AM


There was no world-wide flood. The Biblical floods are simply fantasy.
There has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans existed. There have never been giants.
Only the delusional and con men try to market the idea that there was some world-wide flood or that there were giants.

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jar
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Message 950 of 1352 (810944)
06-03-2017 9:44 AM
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06-03-2017 9:42 AM


Re: There was a world-wide flood. because of
There has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans existed. There have never been giants.
Only the delusional and con men try to market the idea that there was some world-wide flood or that there were giants.

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jar
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Message 964 of 1352 (811546)
06-09-2017 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 962 by Faith
06-09-2017 12:41 AM


Re: More evidence
Faith writes:
But the Bible is God's own word to the human race.
Yet it seems that God could not even get the story straight in her own words. She tells two mutually exclusive and contradictory accounts.
The God you market is simply not a reliable witness.

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jar
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Message 967 of 1352 (811572)
06-09-2017 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 966 by Coyote
06-09-2017 9:58 AM


Re: More evidence
What Faith means is that there is no way she can verify our conclusions. Of course, for the rest of the world there certainly are ways to test and verify conclusions. Those methods have been pointed out to here and in fact for several hundred years every one of those methods have shown that reality is correct and the Bible is false.
That is the reality she avoids dealing with.
Fact: The Biblical Flood is a myth.
Fact: The Garden of Eden is a myth.
Fact: Young Earth is a fantasy.

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jar
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Message 979 of 1352 (811907)
06-13-2017 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 978 by Faith
06-13-2017 10:23 AM


facts and reality trump beliefs
Faith writes:
No, evolution is impossible because it uses up genetic diversity.
You keep making really stupid claims like that but as always, reality shows you are simply wrong, massively wrong.
Evolution on the Earth has been going on for billions of years and so is certainly not impossible, or unlikely, or unexpected.
Evolution over billions of years is a fact just as it is a fact that there has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans have existed.
And remember faith, even the Bible supports the fact that the Flood stories are simply myths. That is also supported by the fact that there are two mutually exclusive flood myths just as there are two mutually exclusive creation myths in the Bible stories.
You of course are free to ignore facts and reality but your fantasies will not change either.

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jar
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Message 983 of 1352 (811922)
06-13-2017 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 980 by Faith
06-13-2017 11:09 AM


Re: I've proved it a million times already
Faith writes:
It's really amazing how you get away with nothing but smearing the debater and asserting the contrary point of view. It's really just about all you ever do. You hardly ever address the argument itself. Amazing.
I am not "smearing the debater". I said nothing about the debater. I simply pointed out that what you post is factually wrong.
It is your argument that is silly and inane, utterly false, unreasonable, ridiculous, sophomoric and it was only your asserted "argument" that I or anyone else has been addressing.
The truth is still that there has never been a world-wide flood during the period of time that humans existed and that even the Bible itself shows evidence that the flood tales are meant as myth not fact just as the creation myths are simply plot devices to address import subjects to the humans that wrote the stories.

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jar
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Message 992 of 1352 (811985)
06-13-2017 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 988 by Faith
06-13-2017 8:58 PM


You've claimed it a million times already but never proved anything!
Faith writes:
I've said I can't answer it and I have better evidence anyway which makes the dating false.
Yes, you do make such claims yet the fact is just one dating sample is all that is needed to totally refute Young Earth.
Just one society that existed before, during and after the flood (called almost all of the stone and bronze age) refutes the Biblical flood.
Just one city that existed before during and after the flood refutes the Biblical flood.
Just one sample of a living organism that lived before during and after the flood totally refutes the Bible story.
Sorry but regardless of whatever evidence you think you have, the Biblical Flood never happened.
Period!
That's a fact Jack!

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jar
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Message 1002 of 1352 (812018)
06-14-2017 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 999 by Faith
06-14-2017 10:10 AM


no Faith you have not proved it a million times already
Faith writes:
The point is that there is no way to tell if the past was the same as the present, but a cross section can show that the strata were all laid down before tectonic disturbance occurred.
But of course that is demonstrably not true Faith as you have been shown repeatedly. Change leaves evidence. Thinking people can not just tell if the past was like the present, they can even tell how the past differed at most any time from the present.
It is only those who are willfully ignorant who cannot tell if the past was the same as the present, or the deluded, or the dishonest.
Simple things like leaf shape can tell what the average temperatures were. Width of tree rings can tell what average rainfall was in a given year. We have actually sample the very air from millions of years ago.
Your assertion, no matter how many times you repeat it, is simply false and has been refuted for hundreds of years.
Only those people deluded into a perversion of the Bible are unable to understand that the Biblical flood stories in the Bible are simply fiction, folk tales, fantasy.

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jar
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Message 1016 of 1352 (812101)
06-14-2017 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1015 by Faith
06-14-2017 8:11 PM


Re: I've proved it a million times already
Faith writes:
Strata. Enormous range, enormous depth.
Fossils, bazillions of them. The whole point of the Flood was to kill things.
That's what is so funny about the Biblical Flood Dud, it killed nothing, no one even noticed it, it was just another non-event.

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