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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: And about mudslides, if you can figure out how it could rain for forty days and nights without producing prodigious mudslides, please enlighten. There is nothing to figure out Faith; we simply need to look at what is happening now. Mudslides only happen in limited places. Forty days and forty nights of rain will not dissolve rock. No mudslide has ever scoured the land flat. Hell, even the Bible can't get the details of the supposed flood straight; either one or both of the stories has to be false. Yet that small detail (that the Bible itself refutes the Biblical flood having happened) pales in the face of several facts:
The Pando tree has been around for tens of thousands of years and never spent a year under water.
The Jurupa Oak has been around over ten thousand years and never spent a year under water.
Old Tikko has been around since before the Garden of Eden without ever spending a year under water.
And Lomatia tasmanica has been cloning itself now for at least 40 thousand years. And there are Bristlecone pines that have been living for over 5000 years. The Flood never happened.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Forty days and nights of constant rain all over the entire earth would cause mudslides whether or not there were also rocks. And we know what such mudslides would look like. They would not scour the land flat. Faith, change leaves evidence. What has not ever been found is any evidence of some world-wide flood. It does not matter how many times you claim the evidence is the strata the strata say you are wrong.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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ringo writes: Why are strata full of dead things not evidence for a lot of small floods? Or dying of old age? Or dying from the cold? Or dying from thirst. Or dying from disease. or ...
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What Faith can't explain using the imaginary flood is what actually exists. She cannot explain the White Cliffs of Dover.
She cannot explain the things that were alive before the flood (many before the Garden of Eden) yest have never been under water for a year. She cannot explain the paintings and petroglyphs from before the flood (many from before the Garden of Eden) that were never under water for a year. She cannot explain the cities that existed before and after the flood yet were not flooded. She cannot explain the civilizations (many in the Middle East) that existed before and after the flood but never even noticed it. Reality says that the Biblical flood never happened. The Bible shows that the Biblical Flood never happened.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes: Yeah, but what about magic? Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't magic. And if Faith claimed "Magic" I'd certainly have to admit that was possible.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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What so funny about the fools that believe in a Biblical Flood is that the magic flood even placed the shells INSIDE rocks and not just on the rocks.
No honest and sane person today can believe there was some Biblical flood.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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There has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans existed. There have never been giants.
Only the delusional and con men try to market the idea that there was some world-wide flood or that there were giants.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans existed. There have never been giants.
Only the delusional and con men try to market the idea that there was some world-wide flood or that there were giants.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: But the Bible is God's own word to the human race. Yet it seems that God could not even get the story straight in her own words. She tells two mutually exclusive and contradictory accounts. The God you market is simply not a reliable witness.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What Faith means is that there is no way she can verify our conclusions. Of course, for the rest of the world there certainly are ways to test and verify conclusions. Those methods have been pointed out to here and in fact for several hundred years every one of those methods have shown that reality is correct and the Bible is false.
That is the reality she avoids dealing with. Fact: The Biblical Flood is a myth. Fact: The Garden of Eden is a myth. Fact: Young Earth is a fantasy.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: No, evolution is impossible because it uses up genetic diversity. You keep making really stupid claims like that but as always, reality shows you are simply wrong, massively wrong. Evolution on the Earth has been going on for billions of years and so is certainly not impossible, or unlikely, or unexpected. Evolution over billions of years is a fact just as it is a fact that there has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans have existed. And remember faith, even the Bible supports the fact that the Flood stories are simply myths. That is also supported by the fact that there are two mutually exclusive flood myths just as there are two mutually exclusive creation myths in the Bible stories. You of course are free to ignore facts and reality but your fantasies will not change either.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: It's really amazing how you get away with nothing but smearing the debater and asserting the contrary point of view. It's really just about all you ever do. You hardly ever address the argument itself. Amazing. I am not "smearing the debater". I said nothing about the debater. I simply pointed out that what you post is factually wrong. It is your argument that is silly and inane, utterly false, unreasonable, ridiculous, sophomoric and it was only your asserted "argument" that I or anyone else has been addressing. The truth is still that there has never been a world-wide flood during the period of time that humans existed and that even the Bible itself shows evidence that the flood tales are meant as myth not fact just as the creation myths are simply plot devices to address import subjects to the humans that wrote the stories.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: I've said I can't answer it and I have better evidence anyway which makes the dating false. Yes, you do make such claims yet the fact is just one dating sample is all that is needed to totally refute Young Earth. Just one society that existed before, during and after the flood (called almost all of the stone and bronze age) refutes the Biblical flood. Just one city that existed before during and after the flood refutes the Biblical flood. Just one sample of a living organism that lived before during and after the flood totally refutes the Bible story. Sorry but regardless of whatever evidence you think you have, the Biblical Flood never happened. Period! That's a fact Jack!
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The point is that there is no way to tell if the past was the same as the present, but a cross section can show that the strata were all laid down before tectonic disturbance occurred. But of course that is demonstrably not true Faith as you have been shown repeatedly. Change leaves evidence. Thinking people can not just tell if the past was like the present, they can even tell how the past differed at most any time from the present. It is only those who are willfully ignorant who cannot tell if the past was the same as the present, or the deluded, or the dishonest. Simple things like leaf shape can tell what the average temperatures were. Width of tree rings can tell what average rainfall was in a given year. We have actually sample the very air from millions of years ago. Your assertion, no matter how many times you repeat it, is simply false and has been refuted for hundreds of years. Only those people deluded into a perversion of the Bible are unable to understand that the Biblical flood stories in the Bible are simply fiction, folk tales, fantasy.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Strata. Enormous range, enormous depth.Fossils, bazillions of them. The whole point of the Flood was to kill things. That's what is so funny about the Biblical
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