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Dr Adequate
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Message 629 of 734 (787160)
07-06-2016 2:01 AM
Reply to: Message 627 by xongsmith
07-05-2016 6:14 PM


Re: Summary of Southern Defense of Slavery
For the 1% who actually owned slaves, YES, you are correct. But for the average infantry man in the Confederate army it was not self-centered. This monument is NOT to these 1% (they have Stone Mountain for that), but for the poor uneducated whites who died nameless there.
So they were altruistically fighting for slavery?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 680 of 734 (808568)
05-11-2017 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 679 by Percy
05-11-2017 1:27 PM


Re: New Orleans is Removing Confederate War Monuments
Don't remove them, add context.
Hmm, how about a statue of Hitler on one side and a statue of Stalin on the other?

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Message 689 of 734 (808844)
05-14-2017 2:59 AM
Reply to: Message 684 by Percy
05-12-2017 8:06 AM


Re: New Orleans is Removing Confederate War Monuments
Whatever term is used, the point is that the further these monuments are removed from the public eye the more they're out of our consciousness. The more history is forgotten the better its mistakes can be repeated.
Well, we actually know what folks in the South have forgotten about history, and it seems at least plausible that their veneration of the Confederacy has helped them to forget it. So if the point is to have public aide-mmoires for history students, let's take down the statues and replace them with big placards saying YES, THE CIVIL WAR WAS ABOUT SLAVERY. And then when they've all learned that lesson maybe they can put the statues back up --- if they want to.

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Message 691 of 734 (808910)
05-14-2017 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 690 by Percy
05-14-2017 8:52 AM


Re: New Orleans is Removing Confederate War Monuments
It's a way of hiding history.
Let's stop doing that ...

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