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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Dredge
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Message 187 of 1311 (808660)
05-12-2017 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by Taq
05-11-2017 11:09 AM


Taq writes:
That doesn't address what I wrote.
You could have fooled me.

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Message 188 of 1311 (808661)
05-12-2017 5:03 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by Taq
05-10-2017 10:43 AM


Taq writes:
Producing theories is what science is all about.
I think most scientists would agree that applying a theory to produce a practical use is more important to science than mere theorising.
Your problem you live in a dreamworld of evolutionary theory (aka atheist theology). When it comes to the real world and applied science, you've got absolutely nothing to offer and your theories are are useless as fairy tales. All talk and no action - a typical Darwinist space-cadet, in other words.
I wonder which strand of theorectical science is more useless - Darwinism, String theory or Parallel Universes?
The bottom line is, biology doesn't need Darwinism - only atheists do.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Dredge
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Message 193 of 1311 (808846)
05-14-2017 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by vimesey
05-11-2017 10:51 AM


If children are taught that Darwinism is nonsense, they aren't missing out on anything, because biology doesn't need Darwinism; it's just an irrelevant atheist creation-story. Darwinism doesn't advance any science in any way; and since it is only theorising, it doesn't qualify as true knowledge.

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Message 194 of 1311 (808847)
05-14-2017 5:13 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by CRR
05-11-2017 7:29 AM


CRR, this is a miserly list - only sixteen suspect areas of evidence!
I like the way some paleontologists take a few bones and construct a entire creature out it - maybe even a "transitional". No doubt about it, evolutionists' devotion to scientific rigour is admirable.

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Dredge
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Message 203 of 1311 (809187)
05-16-2017 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by New Cat's Eye
05-15-2017 2:23 PM


New Cat's Eye writes:
scientists will continue to employ the theory of evolution as a working theory that explains biological phenomena.
Useless talk amounting to useless science, in other words. Not impressed, but slightly amused.

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Message 204 of 1311 (809188)
05-16-2017 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Taq
05-16-2017 11:11 AM


Re: a few bones
Taq writes:
Take Lucy for example
Yes, let's take Lucy ... her feet bones were missing, so she was depicted with human feet ... based solely on the fact that human foot-prints were found nearby! Real scientific, that.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Dredge
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Message 205 of 1311 (809191)
05-16-2017 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Coyote
05-14-2017 10:16 AM


Re: Bones
Coyote writes:
When you spend your whole career studying bones you can do things like that
Yep, and when you get really, really good at it, you can come up with Nebraska Man from a pig's tooth! ... or combine the bones of an orangutan and a human to produce Piltdown Man! That degree of scientific rigour, knowledge and expertise is possessed only by highly qualified Darwinist charlatans.

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Dredge
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Message 225 of 1311 (809275)
05-17-2017 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by jar
05-16-2017 6:30 PM


Re: a few bones
Forgive my ignorance, but how was the age of the footprints estimated?

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Message 227 of 1311 (809277)
05-17-2017 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Taq
05-17-2017 10:40 AM


Re: Bones
I don't know - but E looks like John Lennon and B looks like Charles Darwin. G looks like the Phantom, but is it not true that the Phantom cannot die? Skull A looks like me! Am I dead but don't know it?

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Dredge
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Message 228 of 1311 (809279)
05-17-2017 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by New Cat's Eye
05-17-2017 11:10 AM


NewCat'sEye writes:
the usefulness of this science
Yeah, right - just like the Theory of Parallel Universes is useful!

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Dredge
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Message 230 of 1311 (809282)
05-17-2017 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Taq
05-17-2017 10:38 AM


Re: a few bones
Taq writes:
the very definition of a transitional fossil
That's what they say about, Archaeopteryx, but there are many scientists who disagree.
My personal favorite transitional is the Platypus, extinct for 3.3429087 million years. Some folks in Australia claimed to have seen them (!) but all these so-called witnesses turned out to be loony Jesus-freak creationists.

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Dredge
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Message 232 of 1311 (809286)
05-17-2017 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by New Cat's Eye
05-17-2017 11:10 AM


NewCat'sEye writes:
Without evolution, biology just doesn't make much sense.
Are you saying that I must accept, for example, that humans evolved from a hominid, in order for biology to make sense to me?

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Dredge
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Message 234 of 1311 (809291)
05-17-2017 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Taq
05-17-2017 5:15 PM


Re: a few bones
Taq writes:
40Ar/39Ar dating of the volcanic ash
I bought one of those 40Ar/39Ar dating kits from K-mart ($12.95) and found it to be unreliable. Then I read the instructions and tried again - it was worse.

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Dredge
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Message 236 of 1311 (809296)
05-17-2017 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Taq
05-17-2017 5:55 PM


Re: a few bones
No wonder you're a Darwinist - you have a natural aptitude for taking an observation and applying wild extrapolation to it, thus ending up with an unreasonable conclusion.

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Dredge
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Message 238 of 1311 (809301)
05-17-2017 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Taq
05-17-2017 6:04 PM


Taq writes:
you can't make sense of those observations without using evolution
A trained philosopher would immediately recognise this statement as some kind of logical fallacy - something to do with ignoring the possibility that there could be another explanation, known or as yet unknown.
A simple example - I wake up one morning and discover that a dent has appeared in a panel on my car. I can come up with a theory of how it got there that may seem reasonable to me, but there are other possibilities. My theory could be dead wrong.

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