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Taq
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Message 841 of 1491 (809300)
05-17-2017 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 840 by LamarkNewAge
05-17-2017 6:16 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
LamarckNewAge writes:

Russia and Israel are essentially on the same side when it comes to Sunni Muslims.

Russia would probably love to be Israel's favorite ally and have the US kicked to the curb.

These nations aren't enemies.

Russia and the US are, and Russia would love for the US to lose face.


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Message 842 of 1491 (809341)
05-17-2017 9:10 PM
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05-17-2017 6:21 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
Mike Pence in office would result in Assad falling very fast. Due to bombing his government forces.

The pro war side has never taken responsibility for the chaos that has resulted as a direct result of the bombing of the government of Libya a half decade ago.

The French were the drivers of the NATO invasion.

Just like France has been a driver of the anti Assad propaganda today.

If another internationally recognized government is bombed into destruction, then will the pro war side take responsibility for the mess?

The pro war side complains about so called inaction on the part of Obama and Trump, and they will blame the mostly extremist rebels on so called inaction.

A Mike Pence blowout of the Syrian government will probably cause chaos.

But the pro war side always shifts blame, for starters, and past "inaction " will get the blame.

The even bigger problem will be the fact that the resulting chaos will actually audaciously be used to justify more intervention still.

More billions on military spending will be justified by the developments.

Same cycle of lies, bombs, propaganda.

Or lies, propaganda, then bombs.

And $$$.

Dollars, bombs, lies, propaganda

(if no 100% correct order is in the typical cycle we are going through. We are being taken through the ringer, the twist is on )


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Message 843 of 1491 (809347)
05-17-2017 9:48 PM
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05-17-2017 9:10 PM


Yoda says "Incoherent rant, posted you have"
That message qualifies as "incoherent rant", that would seem immune to having a coherent reply.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Better Yodafy subtitle, think I.


Or something like that©.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 844 of 1491 (809350)
05-17-2017 10:21 PM


Special council appointed in Trump/Russia probe
Lawmakers’ Russia probes to continue despite appointment of special counsel

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 845 of 1491 (809354)
05-17-2017 10:53 PM
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05-17-2017 10:21 PM


Re: Special council appointed in Trump/Russia probe
This is just too much of the same old FBI that existed from 1908 to 1972 and ever since.

The bureau came to be in 1908, and J. Edgar Hoover took over before it was even a full decade old, way back in the teens of the previous century.

The anti civil rights Director survived as king of the agency all the way till 1972, because every United States President was afraid to fire him.

Why?

Because he had so much dirt on EVERYONE that a termination of the FBI chief would have led to a Jim Comey May Surprise anytime during the 8 administrations Hoover ruled under ( and frankly over ).

Impeachment then probably prison for the unfortunate President that sacked Hoover.

Nixon was done in by the CIA and FBI ( remember that the Deep Throat daemon was FBI Felt ) anyway, despite Hoover exiting. His ghost remains.

The consummate spook Comey (who was so corrupt from the outset that everyone from Democrat to Republican felt he should not have been in his position in 2017 to start with ) fashioned a black memo literally weeks after President Trump is in office.

This is just laughably stereotypical really. (though it must be admitted that the pro spook propaganda has largely erased what was once common knowledge of the way the intelligence agency essentially blackmails/operates thus it isn't quite a well known stereotype I suppose )

Comey gets fired so now he twisted Trump's words of praise of General Flynn into obstruction of justice. He had a memo already written in February.

Now we will take his spin (poison ) pen as gospel?

God help us.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 846 of 1491 (809355)
05-17-2017 11:21 PM
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05-17-2017 10:53 PM


Re: Special council appointed in Trump/Russia probe
Man, I hardly ever know what you are talking about.

The consummate spook Comey (who was so corrupt from the outset that everyone from Democrat to Republican felt he should not have been in his position in 2017 to start with ) fashioned a black memo literally weeks after President Trump is in office.

I note that you completely ignore the reptilian infiltration and control of the FBI.

God help us.

Yeah, she's been so much help in the past.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 847 of 1491 (809357)
05-17-2017 11:50 PM
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05-17-2017 11:21 PM


Re: Special council appointed in Trump/Russia probe
Comey met Trump in February and wrote a memo claiming that Trump obstructed justice during the conversation.

Trump told him that General Flynn was a good guy and that he hopes Comey will go easy on him.

Comey says that his February memo ( which Trump never saw ) - when combined with Trump's request of loyalty in the post election 2016 conversation - constitutes "obstruction of justice " or that is his implicit accusation based on his conniving secret February memo.

He wants Trump impeached over kind words about Flynn and God only knows how much Comey tortured the context of the attributions he made to Trump nevermind if the specific words were accurate to start with.

Unreal.

Or totally real.

Totally typical really.


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Message 848 of 1491 (809358)
05-18-2017 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 847 by LamarkNewAge
05-17-2017 11:50 PM


Re: Special council appointed in Trump/Russia probe
Unreal.

Or totally real.

Trump admitted on TV that he fired Comey to stop the russia investigation. Him trying to influence the investigtion of flynn isn't out of the realm of possibility


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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jar
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Message 849 of 1491 (809397)
05-18-2017 10:20 AM


Lock Reporters Up??????????????????
The most recent revelation is a claim that during the talk where Trump is alleged to have asked Comey to drop the investigation of Flynn he also suggested Comey should lock reporters who publish leaked information up.

source

Tricky Dick would have liked that as well.

Edited by jar, : add source link


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 850 of 1491 (809436)
05-18-2017 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 846 by Tanypteryx
05-17-2017 11:21 PM


Tanypteryx laughed about the CIA hiding documents.
But there are very easy quotes to find about the "spooks" holding back documents from Nixon. From government officials in the administration.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nixon+jfk+pure+dynam...

Interestingly, the 4th hit is Roger Stone talking about the issue in a recent book.

The fact of the matter is that the agencies holding documents from even the President of the United States is a real issue.

And it is an issue among those in the Trump circle.

At least Stone and Trump.

Stone was just the subject of a documentary Roger and Me.

Dedicated to Wayne Barrett.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 851 of 1491 (809452)
05-18-2017 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 850 by LamarkNewAge
05-18-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Tanypteryx laughed about the CIA hiding documents.
LamarkNewAge writes:

Tanypteryx laughed about the CIA hiding documents.

No I didn't. I was laughing at you. You bounce around all over the place with nutty conspiracy theories mixed in with real news.

Tanypteryx writes:

Man, I hardly ever know what you are talking about.

LamarkNewAge writes:

But there are very easy quotes to find about the "spooks" holding back documents from Nixon. From government officials in the administration.

LamarkNewAge writes:

The fact of the matter is that the agencies holding documents from even the President of the United States is a real issue.

I know it has been speculated about in the news media. When you say it is a "real issue" do you mean it is a bad thing or a good thing.

I personally hope that the agencies and people involved in U.S. national security are sharing as little as possible information with the psychopath in the Whitehouse.

Every day we learn about more connections with the Trump regime and our most deadly enemy (the one that still has thousands of nukes pointed at us). If it wasn't true it would make a great plot for a Tom Clancy novel. I normally make fun of conspiracy nuts, but in this case it looks to me like a group of deep-cover, covert, Russian operatives have taken over the Whitehouse and unfortunately for them their top guy turns out to be insane, with more psychotic personality disorders than have ever been documented in one person.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Taq
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Message 852 of 1491 (809454)
05-18-2017 12:38 PM
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05-18-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Tanypteryx laughed about the CIA hiding documents.
LamarckNewAge writes:

But there are very easy quotes to find about the "spooks" holding back documents from Nixon. From government officials in the administration.

Intelligence agencies have always withheld knowledge of sources and methods from the President unless they were vital for decision making processes. That same information is also compartmentalized in the agencies themselves. There's nothing wrong with that.

With Trump, we have something much more pernicious. We have a person who release damaging classified information for the simple purpose of stroking his own ego. That is scary.


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jar
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Message 853 of 1491 (809610)
05-19-2017 1:09 PM


Trump claims that it's a Witch Hunt.
Trump claims that it's a Witch Hunt.

Next he'll claim we dressed him as a witch.

And put the witch nose on him.

And that he didn't turn Gingrich into a newt or that the newt got better.

So let's weigh him against a duck.

This administration so far has been a piss poor parody of the Flying Circus meets a Little bit of Fry & Laurie.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 854 of 1491 (809613)
05-19-2017 1:55 PM
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05-19-2017 1:09 PM


Re: Trump claims that it's a Witch Hunt.
Trump claims that it's a Witch Hunt.
Next he'll claim we dressed him as a witch.

And put the witch nose on him.

Well, he's safe then, you cannot turn an asshole into a witch, just like you can put candles on a cowpie but that doesn't make it a birthday cake.

Or you can put Trump in the Whitehouse, but he will never earn any respect as a President.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 855 of 1491 (809618)
05-19-2017 3:38 PM
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05-19-2017 1:55 PM


Trump: Firing FBI Chief 'Eased Pressure'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39983257

quote:
Donald Trump told Russian officials that firing "nut job" FBI director James Comey "eased great pressure" - US media

Well, I am guessing the main thing relieving his 'pressure' now would be laxatives.


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