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PaulK
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Message 586 of 960 (809879)
05-21-2017 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 583 by Faith
05-21-2017 9:35 PM


Sure, in a free country winning an election would give you total control of the press and you could make them print any falsehoods you like, no matter how ridiculous.
Put it down to th evil totalitarian Founding Fathers granting freedom of the the press- and even putting it into the evil totalitarian Constitution. Along with the evil totalitarian idea of a "balance of powers" which stops Trump doing whatever he wants.

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Message 587 of 960 (809891)
05-22-2017 2:53 AM
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05-21-2017 11:55 PM


Spin spin spin. Trump hasn't been able to do anything Presidents normally do as a matter of course because he's sabotaged at every turn. And of course the Left has to pretend he'd be a dictator if it weren't for the watchdog press. Thus is the lie maintained. Propaganda is a powerful weapon, I never realized how powerful until this year.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 588 of 960 (809892)
05-22-2017 3:03 AM
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05-22-2017 2:53 AM


No, just fact. And you're the one complaining that Trump isn't dictator. And blaming the press.
To take one example. It isn't the fault of anyone but Trump that healthcare was more complicated than he thought (anyone who had been following the debate would know that the ACA was a balancing act - well except for those listening to silly propaganda about "socialised healthcare" I suppose). It isn't the fault of anyone but Trump and the Republicans that their tinkering with the ACA will take many out of insurance, and make it more expensive for many more - contrary to Trumps promises. It isn't the fault of anyone outside the Republican Party that some Republicans thought that the the changes weren't extreme enough and halted the first attempt.
Trump got elected on propaganda. Too bad you insist on believing it even after it turns out to be false.

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Message 589 of 960 (809897)
05-22-2017 3:30 AM
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05-22-2017 3:03 AM


Don't lie about me. I don't want a dictator, I would just expect a President to be allowed to be President but the lying tyrannical Left does want a dictator, themselves, so they are doing everything they can to undermine anything Trump does. It's amazing that he gets some things done anyway. The healthcare situation would have been figured out already if it weren't for all the obstructionism going on.

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Message 590 of 960 (809904)
05-22-2017 3:46 AM
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05-22-2017 3:30 AM


I'm not lying. You are the one complaining that the press prints the truth - or at least something close to the truth - instead of what you want.
And how can Trump sort the healthcare situation out when the Republicans are divided and what he wants is probably impossible anyway ? It doesn't take any "obstructionism" from the left for that.
And don't forget we saw plenty of obstructionism from the right in the last few years.

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Message 591 of 960 (809905)
05-22-2017 3:48 AM
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05-22-2017 3:46 AM


You're still lying. The press hasn't printed any truth about Trump. since he took office.

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Message 592 of 960 (809909)
05-22-2017 3:59 AM
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05-22-2017 3:48 AM


Oh yes. We come back to your use of "lying" to mean "telling truths you don't like"

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Message 593 of 960 (809919)
05-22-2017 8:16 AM
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05-21-2017 10:03 AM


Faith writes:
...basically a good guy really,...
His every tweet says otherwise.
...allow for everybody's wellbeing and happiness,...
You mean by taking away their healthcare?
...is vilified as if he's some kind of demon, accused of the most amazing perfidies, as if he were the worst person who ever lived.
He's behaving like a demon and committing perfidies, what do you expect?
The Russian collusion story is absurd, has already been debunked even by some on the Left...
Uh, no. There's so much smoke a special counsel (Robert S. Mueller) has been appointed to investigate.
If you vilify people, Trump himself but also all his supporters, calling us names that identify us as inhumane, call us haters and racists and all sort of other lies,...
If you don't like the names don't do the deeds.
--Percy

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Message 594 of 960 (809923)
05-22-2017 8:48 AM
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05-22-2017 8:16 AM


Every line you wrote is a Leftist propaganda line. Reality IS something else altogether.

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Message 595 of 960 (809925)
05-22-2017 9:04 AM
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05-22-2017 8:48 AM


Faith writes:
Every line you wrote is a Leftist propaganda line.
Fox News has reported all the same things.
--Percy

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Message 596 of 960 (809981)
05-22-2017 3:05 PM
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05-22-2017 8:48 AM


Faith writes:
Every line you wrote is a Leftist propaganda line. Reality IS something else altogether.
That's what conservatives say when they don't want to deal with the facts.

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Message 597 of 960 (809982)
05-22-2017 3:18 PM
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05-21-2017 10:03 AM


GOP Lawmaker: Lynch Anyone Who Takes Down Confederate Monuments
But those mean leftists are printing things. In newspapers. Like Hitler.

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Message 598 of 960 (809986)
05-22-2017 4:01 PM
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05-22-2017 3:18 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
GOP Lawmaker: Lynch Anyone Who Takes Down Confederate Monuments
But those mean leftists are printing things. In newspapers. Like Hitler.
Some conservatives have twisted their logic so far inside-out that they would claim the real victims of the Civil Rights movement were the persecuted white business owners who were no longer able to express their freedom to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin.
We have reached a point in history where there are groups claiming that taking away peoples' rights is a right unto itself. Mix in a lack of self awareness and a non-functional irony meter, and you have the Alt Right movement.

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Message 599 of 960 (809993)
05-22-2017 6:14 PM
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05-22-2017 4:01 PM


Mix in a lack of self awareness and a non-functional irony meter, and you have the Alt Right movement.
Irony Meters and Bullshit Filters both stop functioning when they come within the right-wing zone of repugnance.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 600 of 960 (812138)
06-15-2017 1:43 AM


more of the same
You'd think I'd be happy that we got Trump who represents my view of a secure and prosperous America, but the Left isn't going to let the rest of us enjoy our victory. They actually have a Resistance movement to thwart our will, the will of the other half of the voting population that disagree with them. What has happened to civility, to our vaunted freedoms? How do you allow yourselves to malign this other half of the country as you do? Where do you get your arrogant certainty that you are right and we just trash you can call names and step on? Where are the voices decrying a comedian's holding up the severed head of OUR chosen President? Since there are none I would assume yhou think we should all have our heads severed. Why doesn't it bother you to impose your views on so many of us that hate your views? We won the election and all the Left has done is try to overturn it. Not a shred of civility left.
The only person to raise the issue of the attempted murder of a Republican congressman today raised it on the Humor thread. Why is nobody else concerned about it? Do you agree with all the crazy Twitter talk about how the Republicans deserve it? The guy hated Trump. So do all the media and the supposed comedians, who I don't find funny at all, just full of hatred and the arrogant desire to impose their will on those of us who disagree.
The Left even dominates and spews its venom even when our side wins. Do they want to start a civil war? What is going to be the end of all this violent craziness?
This whole thread has already shown the partisan craziness on the Left. Stuff is made up against Trump just because you have a different political view. Amazing.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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