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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
Correction: creationism CAN'T produce its own science because there's nothing scientific about it. Creationism can't make sense of biology because it ignores reality. it's based entirely on myth. If creationism could produce its own science, it might be taken seriously by science; it might be possible to teach it in schools. But as it is, all creationism can say is that science is wrong, which isn't much of a basis for education. That is ultimately why 'Intelligent Design' manifested in the vernacular of the religious right. They knew that utilizing the word 'creationism' immediately relegated their views to myth. So they attempting to give it a more 'scientific' sounding title in the hopes that it would give them more gravitas to push their ideology into the classroom. But unfortunately for them, as was evidenced in the Dover trial, it backfired. When they peeled back the onion of ID, it was just creationism in a new wrapper.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes: You didn't demonstrate any flaws in the theory of evolution in that post. Is that what I was trying to do? I was trying to demonstrate that the theory that all life shares a common ancestor is irrelevant in the fight against HIV/AIDS and in the development of the swine vaccine. Taq, now is an excellent chance to help deliver Dredge from the darkness of his pathetic ignorance. Please explain how the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor has proven useful in the treatment of HIV/AIDS and in developing swine flu vaccine. This should be a piece'a'cake for someone of your intelligence and learning. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Slight thread title change:
Nothing in biology (or any other science) makes sense in the light of creationism Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes: Grow up "... whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it" - Jesus (Mark 10:15).
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
RAZD writes:
This is where the the "Peleg" theory (Genesis 10:25, 1Chronicles 1:19) comes into its own: From the six days of creation until about 750 years after the Flood, all land was gathered in one huge continent. Thus all the creatures from the ark were able to migrate to wherever they migrated to in 750 years. Then God divided this monolithic land mass into its present fragmented arrangement. the problem is getting from the ark to ... where they are now Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2263 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined:
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Maybe we should move this discussion on Noah's Ark to "The True History of the Flood". I think it would be more at home there than here.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Dredge writes: "... whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it" - Jesus (Mark 10:15). Yet again, bumper stickers are not argument. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Point taken.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
RAZD writes: ... Then God divided this monolithic land mass into its present fragmented arrangement. the problem is getting from the ark to ... where they are now So magic then. Okay. Carefully herded so that only marsupials ended up in Australia and none strayed to end up in Africa, Europe, Asia. So still not explained, and now you have added wicked fast continental movement with no basis in the bible, so THAT is not explained except by imagination, and no thought to the consequences of this fantasy -- boiled seas and massive tidal waves for which there is NO objective empirical evidence. Stick to the magic explanation, don't try mock reality. Biology makes so much more rational an explanation. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : return to topicby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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RAZD writes: So magic then. Okay. Carefully herded so that only marsupials ended up in Australia and none strayed to end up in Africa, Europe, Asia. And none died and were fossilized in those areas either. YEC is simply absurdity carried to the extreme.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2263 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
And none died and were fossilized in those areas either.
Fossilization is quite rare, as evolutionists often tell us when explaining the lack of transitional forms. While the flood would have provided good conditions for fossilisation the post flood world would have been far less favourable. In addition animal numbers were initially quite low further reducing the chance of fossilisation. Some marsupials did end up in America and there are marsupial fossils in Europe.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
And if memory serves, there is a small, mouse-size marsupial that exists in Africa.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Dredge writes: All extant marsupials are endemic to Australasia and the Americas. All extant marsupials are endemic to Australasia and the Americas. Marsupial - Wikipedia Present-day distribution of marsupials.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2263 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
mouse-size marsupial that exists in Africa.
Not that I know of, although they did previously exist in both Africa and Europe. I'd be interested if you can find details.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2263 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
Nothing in biology (or any other science) makes sense in the light of creationism
Actually many historians believe that it was the belief in Creation by a rational monotheistic Creator that provided the foundation for modern science. Peter Harrison, then a professor of history and philosophy at Bond University in Queensland, Australia (and one-time Andreas Idreos Professor of Science and Religion at the University of Oxford): "Had it not been for the rise of the literal interpretation of the Bible and the subsequent appropriation of biblical narratives by early modern scientists, modern science may not have arisen at all. In sum, the Bible and its literal interpretation have played a vital role in the development of Western science. Stephen Snobelen, Assistant Professor of History of Science and Technology, University of King’s College, Halifax, Canada, writes in a similar vein, and also explains the somewhat misleading term literal interpretation: Here is a final paradox. Recent work on early modern science has demonstrated a direct (and positive) relationship between the resurgence of the Hebraic, literal exegesis of the Bible in the Protestant Reformation, and the rise of the empirical method in modern science. I’m not referring to wooden literalism, but the sophisticated literal-historical hermeneutics that Martin Luther and others (including Newton) championed. Biblical roots of modern science - creation.com
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