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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
RAZD
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Message 421 of 1311 (810393)
05-29-2017 7:11 AM
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05-28-2017 5:51 PM


... Some marsupials did end up in America ...
From Antarctica to South America, as did the ones in Australia. The opossum is the only marsupial in North America and it came from South America.
... and there are marsupial fossils in Europe.
I can find no information on this -- can you give link?
I can also not find any information on a mouse-like marsupial in Africa.
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Message 422 of 1311 (810394)
05-29-2017 7:20 AM
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05-28-2017 5:51 PM


Yet there has never been a world-wide flood while humans existed so your fantasy is as absurd as Creationism.

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Message 423 of 1311 (810401)
05-29-2017 8:04 AM
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05-29-2017 7:11 AM


I can find no information on this [marsupial fossils in Europe] -- can you give link?
Here you are. First result from Google
Discovery Of The Oldest European Marsupial In Southwest France ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/...ses/2009/11/091106103510.htm
Edited by CRR, : typo corrected

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Message 424 of 1311 (810404)
05-29-2017 8:54 AM
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05-29-2017 8:04 AM


Thanks CRR
Here you are. First result from Google
Discovery Of The Oldest European Marsupial In Southwest France ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/...ses/2009/11/091106103510.htm
quote:
Remains of one of the oldest known marsupials have been recovered in Charente-Maritime by a palaeontologist team from the Musum national d'Histoire naturelle (CNRS) and the University of Rennes 1. This discovery raises a new hypothesis about the dispersal route of the earliest marsupial mammals.
Arcantiodelphys marchandi improves our knowledge of the earliest stages of the marsupial history, so far known mostly from North American fossils. Its main significance is that the beginning of the marsupial history also involved Europe. Furthermore, it confirms faunal links between North America and Europe during the mid-Cretaceous. It is from these primitive marsupials from the "Euramerican" Cretaceous that the modern marsupials colonized the southern landmasses, South America and mainly Australia where they are nowadays well diversified. Opossums and kangaroos are extant representatives of this very old northern origin of the marsupials.
Curious that they say marsupials started in North America, so I'll have to look into this some more.
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Message 425 of 1311 (810406)
05-29-2017 9:38 AM
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05-29-2017 6:41 AM


Re: Suggested thread title change
You should also look at all of the religious mythology that has been disproved by modern science.
The young earth and a global flood during historic times are two examples.
Except that creationists don't accept the results of modern science when those results disprove their beliefs. Instead, they do their best to discredit or destroy those sciences.
So yes, nothing in biology (or science) makes sense in the light of creationism. Creationism is anti-science.

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Message 426 of 1311 (810407)
05-29-2017 10:26 AM
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05-29-2017 9:38 AM


Re: Suggested thread title change.. Agreed
Sorry to break up this church service of evolutionists.
But the reality is evolution did not creat life, did not create the laws of science, nor did it create science, nor did it create the diversity of life. Evolution is dead, but your preachers keep espousing its dead virtues as if it was alive.
Sorry evolution is a myth, a man made concoction and religion.
Preaching to the congregation gives it no more value than the luck and chance it is based on.
So do chance the title of this thread, as mentioned previously.

Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 427 of 1311 (810410)
05-29-2017 10:38 AM
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05-29-2017 10:26 AM


Davidjay just keeps on misrepresenting what others say.
Davidjay writes:
But the reality is evolution did not creat life, did not create the laws of science, nor did it create science, nor did it create the diversity of life.
No one but you said evolution created life.
No one but you said that evolution created the laws of science.
No one but you said evolution created science.
But it is the only explanation for the diversity of life seen today and in the past.
Nor has any other reasonable explanation ever been presented.
Finally, the Biblical creation myths can't even get the basics like method, order or even the characteristics of the God straight.
Creationism is simply stupid.
Creationism is DOA, thank God!

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Message 428 of 1311 (810418)
05-29-2017 11:06 AM
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05-29-2017 10:38 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Ok a start..
Evolution did not creat life..Agreed
Evolution did not creat laws..Agreed
Evolution did not creat Science...Agreed
Its the only explanation for the diversity of Life... Disagree, creationism is the sane logical rational other explanation.
Whew, surely I have gotten some agreement out of you..... now to get you consistent and get all your statements agreeing with one another.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Message 429 of 1311 (810425)
05-29-2017 11:20 AM
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05-29-2017 11:06 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Davidjay writes:
Its the only explanation for the diversity of Life... Disagree, creationism is the sane logical rational other explanation.
Yet another totally unsupported assertion from you. Even the Bible is evidence that creation is simply nonsense since the Bible contains two mutually exclusive creation myths; myths that show different order, different methods and even different characteristics of the creator.
Now to get you to stop lying about what others say or at least try to quote people honestly.
What I posted was:
quote:
No one but you said evolution created life.
No one but you said that evolution created the laws of science.
No one but you said evolution created science.
Stop lying Davidjay.

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Message 430 of 1311 (810428)
05-29-2017 11:27 AM
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05-29-2017 11:20 AM


Re: We have agreement....
They love to call me a liar even when I agree with them.. Yikes, hows that for inconsistency and an apparent blatant attempt to get me banned, because I misrepresent and agree with them.....
Strange twists and turns but the motivations of the heart remain....

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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jar
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Message 431 of 1311 (810435)
05-29-2017 12:01 PM
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05-29-2017 11:27 AM


You continue to misrepresent reality, Christianity, and what others say.
And you continue to misrepresent what others say.
It is not because you agree with anyone, it is because you continue even in your latest post to misrepresent what others have said.

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Message 432 of 1311 (810436)
05-29-2017 12:03 PM
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05-29-2017 11:06 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Davidjay writes:
... creationism is the sane logical rational other explanation.
Creationism doesn't EXPLAIN anything. It only asserts that God created; it doesn't explain HOW. Religionists even agree that Gods ways and means are unknowable by mere mortals.

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Message 433 of 1311 (810453)
05-29-2017 6:58 PM
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05-29-2017 12:03 PM


Re: We have agreement....
I can tell you how..... its logical and mathematical and followed steps, as in geometry, as in perfection and as in continous harmony..
But it involves ultimate power and ultimate wisdom as well. But evolutionists are too proud to accept anyone or anything greater than themselves.
Evolutionists pride stops them from learning principles and laws, and gaining understanding of the Creation and of course, the CREATOR.
There I answered another one of your questions.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Message 434 of 1311 (810454)
05-29-2017 7:00 PM
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05-29-2017 12:01 PM


Re: You continue to misrepresent reality,
Jar, I agreed totally with three out of four claims you made, and then you say I misrepresent you.... and your exact exact words....
Oh well, you can lead an evolutionists to common water, but they tend to spit it all out unless you agree on evolution and their magic mutations and magical branching non science.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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jar
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Message 435 of 1311 (810459)
05-29-2017 7:39 PM
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05-29-2017 7:00 PM


Re: You continue to misrepresent reality,
Davidjay writes:
Jar, I agreed totally with three out of four claims you made, and then you say I misrepresent you.... and your exact exact words....
that's correct. You misrepresent what I and others say.

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