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Author Topic:   Y.E.C. Model: Was there rapid evolution and speciation post flood?
NoNukes
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Message 416 of 518 (811080)
06-04-2017 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 415 by Faith
06-04-2017 8:02 PM


Re: YEC requires selection on mutants
The O blood type is apparently a mutation that lost some of the functions of the A and B types but not the basic function of a blood type as far as I know
I cannot let you just hide behind "as far as I know" when your statement is complete nonsense.
The Blood Type Diets : Blood Type O
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Type O was an early success formula. It is the only blood type that carries two opposing blood type antibodies (one blood type A and another against blood type B). These antibodies undoubtably conveyed some survival advantage, as many of the common diseases that plagued our ancestors possessed markers (antigens) that simulated the other blood types.
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This blood type has a very well-developed ability to digest meals that contain both protein and fat. This is because two chemicals used by the digestive tract, an enzyme called intestinal alkaline phosphatase, and a lipoprotein called ApoB48 are secreted into the digestive tract in much higher amounts by type O's.
So, no O type is not just some debilitated A or B type.
I know you want to protect your position against complete destruction, but perhaps doing it by making incorrect guesses is just self-deception.
I don't think albinism is a good thing so the rabbit fur example is at least compromised in its supposed beneficiality.
Of course that is not the only result of that five-allele c-gene system, so apparently, this is yet another bad excuse.
I've conceded this point for now because there is no way to know
It is quite easy to put a quite low upper limit on the number of alleles that Noah and his family could possess. Noah's three sons could have only the alleles that his parents had regardless of how many mutated alleles existed up to that point. Then there are the three wives whom I assume you would give credit for at most two alleles each per gene, again regardless of what mutants existed in the folks who did not make it into the ark.
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NoNukes
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Message 423 of 518 (811353)
06-07-2017 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 419 by Faith
06-07-2017 10:47 AM


Re: YEC requires selection on mutants
But I will make one point: if all those mutant alleles really contribute to protection against many diseases it's rather odd that we seem (to me anyway) to have a lot more immune deficiency diseases than ever before.
Again, the multiple gene systems still exist, so there is no way to blame this all on mutant alleles. Secondly, "seems to me anyway" with an anecdote or two is not really evidence. We have no idea what immune deficiency diseases people died from 6000 years ago. And of course, pathogens evolve two.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Not really, it is a theory that is imposed on nature so consistently that you think you are observing it. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 464 of 518 (823186)
11-07-2017 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 462 by Coyote
11-06-2017 8:26 PM


Re: Starman fails
In order to make a case for one's beliefs, there must be some rational evidence and so far we see none from Starman.
That's right. In fact, his entire strategy is to claim that there is no such thing as evidence. Space and time are an illusion which confounds our attempts to identify truth using the scientific method. The only reality is Creation Science; knowledge based firmly on Genesis.
Or at least that is the case if you let starman tell it.
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