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jar
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Message 35 of 150 (807507)
05-03-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 11:05 AM


Re: Real Scientists...
Davidjay writes:
Real scientists test out and see if Jesus is real
More absurdities from you I see.
How can one test Jesus to see if Jesus is real?

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jar
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Message 115 of 150 (810542)
05-30-2017 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Davidjay
05-30-2017 12:25 PM


Re: Evolutionists are out of their realm...
Davidjay writes:
Apparently evolutionists believe evolution did not start life and did not creat any laws.
Of course evolution did not create life by definition. Nor does it create laws. Humans create laws.
This has been explained to you before. Laws and Theories are human creations to explain observed phenomena.
For example the Theory of Evolution explains the diversity of life seen in reality.
The Law of Gravity explained why things fell down instead of up.
However, both Theories and Laws evolve as man learns new details or acquires new ways to measure things.
Evolution says nothing. Humans say things. Humans create Laws. Humans create Theories. The fact of evolution is simply an acknowledgement of observed reality.

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jar
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Message 119 of 150 (810652)
05-31-2017 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Davidjay
05-31-2017 12:08 PM


Re: Man did not create the laws of the Universe
And it's clear you are ignorant about what a Theory or Law really is.
Before you will be able to converse or discuss anything you really need to learn a few basics like what a Law is.
All scientific and natural Laws were created by man.

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Message 125 of 150 (811069)
06-04-2017 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by ringo
06-04-2017 2:48 PM


Why the god of the Bible is simply a human creation
ringo writes:
Mankind created the Lord - in fact we created hundreds of them, thousands of them. You even know that, don't you? Or don't you think Zeus and Quetzalcoatl were made up?
Which is why the God described in Genesis 1 is entirely different than the God in the Genesis 2&3. Each of those gods are the creation of the peoples of that era and the god they imagined.

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Message 135 of 150 (811241)
06-06-2017 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by Faith
06-06-2017 1:49 AM


Re: Jay having coffee.... and chatting about 'truths' again !
Why does that carry anymore significance than the claim of Vissarion or AJ Miller or David Shayler?
If you like I will happily provide many addition link to people who have asserted the same truth about themselves.
How is Jesus' claimed assertion different?

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jar
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Message 142 of 150 (811256)
06-06-2017 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Phat
06-06-2017 9:55 AM


Re: Jay having coffee.... and chatting about 'truths' again !
Phat writes:
Do you see no difference in the character of Jesus versus the character of the people on my list and the people you mentioned?
This is actually relevant to the topic and I think pretty important.
In all cases we really can't see the actual character of the people mentioned. We have no way of knowing what Jesus' real character was like.
With contemporary people there is at least the possibility of some revealed truth in the sense of this thread but when it comes to Jesus we have only the most unreliable evidence that Jesus even existed. Outside the books selected to be included in the Bible and a few documents that were not included in the Bible we have no evidence that the character Jesus even lived.
The person or persons that wrote the Gospel of John have the character make the assertion Faith quoted. In fact that assertion is only found in John, not in the other Gospels and is in fact taken out of the context of that chapter which is a revision and expansion of the Great Commission (I think I even posted a whole thread on that topic).
To use that as evidence opens the valid question that why should the similar assertions about other folk making claims be given equal weight?
In Christian Theology the answer is far too often "Because the Bible says so." but that offers no revealed truths, only a belief that certain beliefs are true.
Science tests such assertions to find truth.
Religion accepts such assertions and declares "TRUTH".

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